Traditional Muzzleloading Association

Craftsmanship => Traditional Archery and Accoutrements => Topic started by: Doc Or on May 26, 2008, 10:39:52 AM

Title: Where to begin
Post by: Doc Or on May 26, 2008, 10:39:52 AM

I've been shooting bows for years now but never primitive bows.
I would like to give it a try and would like an Eastern bow.
Where do I start when looking?

What type of wood?
Bow Length? [eastern]
Flat bow or self bow? [maybe they're one in the same]

There is a couple of traditional shoots coming up and I would like to know what I'm looking for.

Many here build bows and am hoping you can help me out.

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Post by: Ohio Joe on May 26, 2008, 11:38:56 AM

Doc,

I sent you a PM to a website.  I don't post the site here as they only reserve their posting of other websites for their forum's sponser's.

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Post by: Stormrider51 on May 30, 2008, 06:24:18 PM

Doc,
A flatbow can be a selfbow and vice-versa.  Either one can be backed with sinew or another natural material such as rawhide but it ceases to be a selfbow because of the backing.  For a eastern Native American bow, hickory would be hard to beat as a wood.  Osage Orange (Bois D'Arc) would also be good and, many would argue, better.  As for length, use the formula of draw-length X 2 + 4" as a rule of thumb.  In other words, if your draw length is 28" then that number times two is 56".  Add 4" and you have 60" as a MINIMUM length of the bow.  Please note that I said "minimum length".  The bow can certainly be longer but any shorter and it will tend to stack and do various other bad things like take a set, etc.  Generally speaking, any bow longer than you are tall will be difficult to deal with.

Hope this helps,
Storm

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Post by: Doc Or on May 30, 2008, 08:38:01 PM

Thanks Storm.
 Would I be correct that you would shoot off your knuckles and not a shelf?

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Post by: Stormrider51 on May 31, 2008, 10:28:03 AM

Doc,
Shooting off the knuckle is the traditional way to do it.  You can also use a fairly heavy piece of leather to form a shelf.  The shelf is tucked under the grip wrapping to keep it in place.  Wet the leather, form it into the required "L" shape, secure it onto the grip, and let dry.  This shelf has another benefit in that it guarantees that you will have the arrow in the same position on the bow each and every time.  Consistency is the key to accurate shooting with a bow just as with a firearm.

If you do shoot off the knuckle, pay special attention to the fletching on your arrows.  The leading point of the feather quill can cause a minor but painful cut on your knuckle.  You can prevent this by putting a drop of super glue on the pointed tip of the quill.  

Storm

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Post by: Captchee on May 31, 2008, 10:59:48 AM

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Doc,

I sent you a PM to a website.  I don't post the site here as they only reserve their posting of other websites for their forum's sponser's.

 in confused joe . you mean that site  only allows links to their sit  by their forum sponsors ?
is that what your saying ?

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Post by: Ohio Joe on May 31, 2008, 01:33:18 PM

That's correct.  If you post let's say the TMA as an example, it would be deleted when found, unless the TMA was a paid advertiser on their site.  Lot's of PM's are made on that site.  So I figure if I can't post the TMA as a reference on their site, I won't post their site here.

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Post by: Captchee on May 31, 2008, 02:09:55 PM

ohhh ok i get it . know of a few myself that are that way
thanks for the reply

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Post by: Longhunter on May 31, 2008, 11:15:28 PM

Hey Joe, I think I know who...er I mean,  what site yer talkin about  

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Post by: Ohio Joe on May 31, 2008, 11:54:26 PM

And I can see their point of view.  After all it's the advertisers who they make their money from in their publication.

Ron, I have no doubt you know of who I speak.  I do like their site and their publication.  Heck, I'm a subscriber!

I sent you a PM Captchee letting you know who I'm referring to.  As I said above, I do like their site and I feel it's a great help to many.

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Post by: melsdad on October 03, 2008, 08:37:09 PM

Can someone P.M. me about this mystery website?

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Post by: Christiaan on October 09, 2008, 08:00:36 AM

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Can someone P.M. me about this mystery website?

I'm in the dark too.  Then again I live on the dark continent so its not surprising.  

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Post by: Indiana on October 09, 2008, 11:33:27 AM

Yeah, I'd appreciate a PM with the link as well.  I'm going to be getting into some traditional archery soon (trading some osage staves for a bow made from one of them) and am trying to learn a little more about it all.

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Post by: deadfallpaul on October 09, 2008, 01:00:38 PM

Let's make that four of us!!
I would be interested also.
Thanks.

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Post by: rickevans on October 09, 2008, 04:10:25 PM

Several PMs sent.

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Post by: Christiaan on October 10, 2008, 02:37:52 AM

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Several PMs sent.

Thanks Rick, I got your PM.  This is what I like about forums.  People share their knowledge and even try to help heathens from the other side of the big pond.    Thanks again.

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Post by: melsdad on October 10, 2008, 06:43:08 AM

Thanks for the pm Rick, that looks like a great site, lots of information.

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Post by: deadfallpaul on October 10, 2008, 03:56:27 PM

Thanks for the site Rick.
Seems to be a lot there.
Will lurk for a while and see what happens.