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Craftsmanship => Gun Building and Repair => Topic started by: Captchee on April 01, 2006, 02:47:55 PM

Title: Of a Lowly Bobcat
Post by: Captchee on April 01, 2006, 02:47:55 PM
There once was  a  bobcat ,,,  no , no , no
There once was  a poor little rifle made by CVA ??? Ok we'll go with that

UHMMM,,,, no mater where she went  folks shunned her  plastic  stock  and ugly shape .
At the traditional gun shows , even though she was  born as a side lock , some would invariably say ; Put! That away , or You cant sell that here .

 Then one day a little lady came by , picked her up  and against her husbands comments of , "you don’t want that " and " what do you want that for" , she was bought  for a  song ..

 But still  there was no peace  for the little rifle . In the gun cabinet there was talk . The SXS would point and whisper. The cartridge rifles turned their scopes , no where did she fit .

 then one night the ladies husband came to get  all the  rifles for a big doins that was coming up .  When the nice lady reached for the little bobcat  her husband exclaimed . YOU CANT BRING THAT!!! And the door slammed shut  .

  The poor little rifle  sat all alone to one side of  the  cold  cabinet,  hearing only the  whispers  of the foul mouthed  modern guns  who were also left behind.

 Suddenly the door open , the big  hands of husband  reached in . He grabbed the little rifle  and threw her in a blanket , wrapped it up tight . Surly this must be it,  though the  bobcat  as she felt the THUNK of being tossed

 There was no air , the little rifle couldnt see . Things were falling   and bouncing all around  for hours , days  it seemed . Finally all was still for some time . then  movement, light , trees , a river ,,AIR!!!!.
Finaly thought the little rifle  I will prove my  worth. She would let  No one out shine her at the range . On this day,  the little lady who was her owner ,would stand front  of all  .

 then suddenly she realized  that  the one whos hands she was in  wasn’t the lady  .but those of the big man of a husband  and  to the river he was heading .
The mans grip was tight on the little rifles barrel . down the trail he went. with each "SMAK" of her stock  hitting a tree the little rifle lost hope .
they suddenly stopped in front of  an Indian lodge.the little rifle had heard the other rifles talk of these before but she never thought she would see one for real . Out  front of the lodge sat two women and  a mountain man .  .
 Is Two feathers around   asked the man holding the little rifle   . One of the women got up   came over  .No she said ,he is out shooting ,can I help you ?
Please  have him  See if he can do something with this ,will ya ,,exclaimed the big man  handing the  little rifle to the strange woman .  then turning and walking away .
 In side the lodge the rifle went  and once again  the lights went out .
 
 Time passes .
As we all know the strange times of  youth are gradually replace with  the knowledge of experience . Our braces are   removed  to show strait teeth . The awkwardness of the teen  years  are replaced by the lines of  a fine woman or the streaght of a young   man  .  Our names change from Mikey , Bobbie, Charlie . To Mike , Bob and Chuck .

So is the way of it  and so is the story of  this  lonely little rifle .
Now all that’s left is  for her to take her place back  amoung the rifles of  the gun cabinet she new long ago .
Returning to the lady who  saved her  . Proud , Strong , a force to be reckoned with  on the range .
 the shape of a lady  strong of will and with lines of knowlage . never again to hang her head .

 So ends our little story  and the time this rifle has spent with me .
 my hope is that long after i am gone the  story of this little common rifle who is not so common any more will live on

 We now need a name fitting of her French lines
 A name fitting of her mother the  Countess Tulle De Chasse  .
Some say  “Loup Cervier”  others say  “Chat de Pomb”
what say you ?
signed
Charlie two feathers .

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LMAO that was fun LOL
 So here she is  all dressed for the “round ball” at the end of the month


and  after

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/captchee/flatlandersbobcat007.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/captchee/flatlandersbobcat004.jpg)
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Post by: rollingb on April 01, 2006, 04:39:28 PM
By golly, that little lady don't need to hang her head anymore,.... does she!! :hey-hey

...... and, she's got a real nice story to go with her!! :bl th up  :bl th up
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Post by: sse on April 01, 2006, 05:24:23 PM
Pretty nice looking piece, Captchee.  I have always liked the reddish cherry look.

Regards, sse
Title: Bobcat
Post by: thumper on April 01, 2006, 06:49:52 PM
SWWWWWWWEEEEEEETTT!!!! I like the way you did the wood relief and but plate.
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Post by: Longknife on April 01, 2006, 09:00:59 PM
....there once was an ugly duckling that turned into a beautiful swan!!!!.....that story fits too. That is really a beautiful piece. Hopefully it moved up a space or two in front of those back-stabbing cartridge guns! :lol:
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Post by: BEAVERMAN on April 02, 2006, 04:11:17 AM
looks like the countess is ready for the ball!
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Post by: Uncle Russ on April 02, 2006, 11:03:23 AM
Captchee....Absolutely great!

I prefer the name.....“Chat de Pomb”. (Although someone else had to tell me what it meant.)
Personally, I think that is a very befitting name for such a nice piece.

(I also noticed you have the gold bound version of Ned Roberts book.)

Russ...
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Post by: Captchee on April 02, 2006, 11:43:37 AM
i guess i should have posted the meaning hu ? LMAO
 ok this is what i have been told by a couple of our members
 first from fletcher was
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The French word for Lynx is 'loup cervier' and since that is a bigger - meaner cat

 then we had graywolf  that had this to say
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while the term loup cervier is used to denote the lynx it's direct translation is "wolf deer".

If one takes a direct translation of the two words bob + cat - you get "chat de plomb" (chat is pronounced kat) - either one sounds good............
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Post by: Voyageur on April 02, 2006, 05:51:01 PM
:shake
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Post by: Firewalker on April 02, 2006, 08:18:36 PM
That is a beauty Captchee!
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Post by: Jack S on April 03, 2006, 02:39:52 AM
Now you've gone and made mine jealous.  :x
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Post by: Eric S Campbell on April 03, 2006, 08:52:56 AM
i tell you what.you did a great job on that gun! :notworthy  :rt th   thanks..................eric
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Post by: Riley/MN on April 03, 2006, 09:48:34 AM
:hairy

Very Cool, Captchee

I like your shelf, too.  Did you do the wings?

Ya know, I do know where one of them 'cats is hangin out. Also a traditions-don't know the model but it is like a wood-stocked bobcat.

Dang it Captchee, I don't have time ta start anymore projects right now...
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Post by: burch on January 24, 2009, 10:09:21 AM
That`s Incredible
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Post by: Two Steps on January 24, 2009, 11:15:45 AM
Capt...I'm glad burch bumped this back up...I enjoy your story every time I read it  :lt th
Al
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Post by: Uncle Russ on January 24, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: "Two Steps"
Capt...I'm glad burch bumped this back up...I enjoy your story every time I read it  :lt th
Al

Same whut the Prezz seez.
I done forgot about this beautiful little CVA ya took to the round ball...she is just as purdy today as she wuz 3 years ago.

Uncle Russ...
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Post by: Fletcher on January 24, 2009, 11:45:59 AM
Yes I agree.  One of the best things I like about this Mountain Man ambiance is the stories that go with the people, the gear and the places they go.

It is good to bring them TTT 'to the top' now and again for those of us who are new and those of us who forget.
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Post by: burch on January 24, 2009, 11:50:30 AM
I was impressed with with Capt`s story too. Your a true credit to this sport Capt. The rifle speakes for itself.  :shake

     Burch
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Post by: Captchee on January 24, 2009, 12:52:51 PM
MAN!! Has it been 3 years ?
 Again I want to thank you all for the kind words .

 The lady who owns her , still has her . Im am proud to say  I have been told the little  rifle has schooled the ladies husband  at the range , more then a few times .

3 years ??  Boy have we come along way fellas .
 I actually look back at this post with  both joy and sadness . I see people that we now longer hear from .
Firewalker , Jack S  I wonder where they are today ?

Long knife is no longer with us , now sitting im sure by the camp fires of the elders , hopefully smiling down   on us and the organization he helped form .
 I think we who knew him miss him greatly . A true Man and friend , in every since of the word .

 I also see  all the others that   are still here , Uncle Russ , Riley , Eric . Beaverman , Voyager , Rolling B .
I even see Thumper now and then. in fact still speak with him often  though we don’t get to shoot together as much as we once did .

 Now we have a new person Burch .
 Burch , thank you for your words  and welcome to the TMA forum .  I hope  we can bring you , much joy and knowledge  and the friendship that we all share
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I also whant to thank you for bringing this forward . While I had not forgotten about doing the rifle , I had forgotten about the story .
  I would have to say that even after this long of time I still believe  the stories base to be true .
 I think to often  we forget that  what we see on the outside   may not be what’s in the inside .
  Possibly in this day and age  of the internet , computer games  and basically a way of life that takes our children way from the out doors , stifling their imaginations to the point that if  they  cant physically see  something, they cant see  it in their mind . I don’t know , I guess it saddens me alittle bit  . Thus  as I recall back 3 years ago. That , was I think the reason behind why I wrote that story .

 Its just so easy anymore to read words on a page and not realize that behind those words , thoughts deeds , is a real living breathing person , just wanting to be heard  or maybe show off their skills and in some way be recognized and accepted .   Im of the opinion , when we   do that , we all grow .

I think Longknife  is proud of  this organization  because we have held true to that  reasoning .
So again folks , thank you for the kind words  and lets not forget that  , that old rifle  or pistol in the back of our closet , hold memories as well   and can provide us with many , many more  if we just give it the chance
 Be safe
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Post by: burch on January 24, 2009, 07:09:19 PM
I just came home from shooting my GPR. Man, how I miss doing that. I gave up BP shooting for a while taken in by modern firearms and the reloading game. Although I still like doing that I accually loved my BP guns at one time and i`m finding how much this sport is modernizing itself with the in-line crowd ( no offense meant ). The lore of traditional weapons is one of the best things i`ve found yet. I also shoot my stick bows and can`t help but favor the traditional side of things. It`s people like Captchee that keep this alive and keep it from dying out. So my hats off to the fine folks in this `ole world that still believe in the way it should be rather than the way it is. Oh, by the way my GPR still hits dead center at 50 yrds.  :happy  I think i`ll start spending a little more time with my past.
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Post by: doc623 on March 02, 2009, 01:29:34 PM
I just happen to have a similar bobcat.
OPne thing is though mine has a silver finish - may have seen or heard the name silver egal or something like that.
Any way want to restock.
Can I blue over the silver finish an if so how would I go about it?
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Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on March 02, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
I've seen and owned several CVA Bobcats but never came across one in stainless or silver finish. Can you read the information on the breach of the barrel? Several of the cheap (inexpensive) rifles that CVA used to sell used the smae locks and barrels as the Bobcat but put on a different stock. Can you post a photo of it?? You've got my curiousity up. CVA also would stick a medellion in the stock and sell it as a Prmotion for National wild turkey federation, or Elk federation etc.Asmall amount of the sale price going to these orgs.
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Post by: doc623 on March 02, 2009, 04:33:52 PM
It is not SS. It does have a silver finish and seems to be textured and not smooth. I'll check the info when I get home.
I do know that it does not have any medalions on it any where.
Can't post a picture of it.
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Post by: Captchee on March 02, 2009, 06:08:27 PM
MMMMM? this would be a new one for me as well , . is there any chance  it was a kit and the barrel was left in the white ?
 if you get a chance photo's please
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Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on March 02, 2009, 07:34:18 PM
Captchee I think CVA offered a mat finish on a few of their guns but I don't recall it being offered on the bobcat. I'm wondering if this may be somthing put together from different parts?
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Post by: Captchee on March 02, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
not sure gorden . i have seen bobcats with larger locks and gold lettering so ?? maybe it was an option or a limited run ?
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Post by: doc623 on March 03, 2009, 01:34:23 PM
I guess that I miss spoke.
It is what I consider of a bob cat type.
I looked and it is actually according to what is on the barrel a:
Silver Eagle, .50 cal.
Stone Mt Inc.
Maid in Spain
Black Powder Only.
It has a synthetic stock and a textured finish on the silver finish barrel.
I do not have any way of posting photos.
I am still woundering if the silver finish may be smoothed down and cold or hot blued?
I am not fond of the synthetic stock nor the silver testured finish.
Any help or suggestions?
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Post by: Captchee on March 03, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
MMM? should be able to strip it ? depends on thatw the finish is
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Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on March 03, 2009, 10:40:45 PM
Sure had me wondering for a while. I didn't think CVA offered the bobcat in the matt finish but you never can be certain.
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Post by: Captchee on March 04, 2009, 09:34:02 AM
well Im thinking it is a bobcat . they just changed the name  when they provided it in a silver satin finish

(http://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/4786/943421669/pop_wm_1188629.jpg)

doesnt say if its plated or  powder coated ?????. but with some work it should all come off and be able to be blued or browned
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Post by: doc623 on March 06, 2009, 08:28:32 AM
That is it just as pictured.