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Craftsmanship => Hawks and Knives => Topic started by: burch on May 01, 2009, 02:57:01 PM

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Post by: burch on May 01, 2009, 02:57:01 PM
What`s the difference between a hawk and an axe ?
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Post by: Three Hawks on May 01, 2009, 03:05:20 PM
Hmmm.....good question.  Nearest  I can come is kinda like the difference between a car and a vehicle.

Tomahawks seem to be made by folding a strip of steel or iron, forge welding it, then shaping the eye on a mandrel.  An ax would have more heft to the head and perhaps a hammer poll and /or an elongated eye.  Generally.

Three Hawks
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Post by: Mitch on May 01, 2009, 03:53:19 PM
tomahawks are for fighting...axes are for work....just my opinion
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Post by: melsdad on May 01, 2009, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: "Mitch"
tomahawks are for fighting...axes are for work....just my opinion

I think that sums it up well, but don't forget tomahawks are for throwin' at blocks of wood to :lol:
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Post by: Spotted Bull on May 01, 2009, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: "Mitch"
tomahawks are for fighting...axes are for work....just my opinion

Those were my first thought too.
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Post by: mario on May 01, 2009, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: "Mitch"
tomahawks are for fighting...axes are for work....just my opinion

I would add to that a little.

Axes and hatchets were generally marketed to settlers as tools.

Tomahawks were marketed to the Indians (and folks living on the frontiers) as tools and weapons.

Mario
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Post by: jgr1974 on May 01, 2009, 09:53:55 PM
LIke the difference between a fiddle and a violin?

 :shock:
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Post by: burch on May 02, 2009, 10:16:45 AM
O.K. so if I need a tool for camping chores what`s a good option ?
Also, i`d like something that`s not gonna pull my pants down carring it all day but is solid enough to hold up to years of service. In other words is there such a tool that`s light weight that`s heavy enough to chop wood with or am I just asking for too much ?

      :lol:
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Post by: tg on May 02, 2009, 11:59:54 AM
Small axes are available like the Brit infantry axe, and various belt/bag axes, they would probably have abot a 2" cutting surface and a poll there are several around with various names.
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Post by: cb on May 02, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
Ron Laclair's (aka Longhunter) Shrew Hawk is well made and well filed tested someone who has spent and continues to spend time hunting and the price is excellent for a handforged piece -

http://shrewbows.com/shrewhawk/index.htm (http://shrewbows.com/shrewhawk/index.htm)
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Post by: burch on May 02, 2009, 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: "tg"
Small axes are available like the Brit infantry axe, and various belt/bag axes, they would probably have abot a 2" cutting surface and a poll there are several around with various names.

  Seems like ya need a bit more than 2" to cut firewood. Are these type axes more for throwing ?
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Post by: burch on May 02, 2009, 01:47:13 PM
Hey CB,
   What`s the dimensions of the head  and cutting surface ?  The web site don`t offer any.
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Post by: BEAVERMAN on May 02, 2009, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: "burch"
Hey CB,
   What`s the dimensions of the head  and cutting surface ?  The web site don`t offer any.


 Burch, send our very own Longhunter here a pm and ask him bud, same person whos site your looking at!
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Post by: burch on May 03, 2009, 06:07:33 AM
Quote from: "BEAVERMAN"
Quote from: "burch"
Hey CB,
   What`s the dimensions of the head  and cutting surface ?  The web site don`t offer any.


 Burch, send our very own Longhunter here a pm and ask him bud, same person whos site your looking at!

     Thanks Beav
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Post by: Longhunter on May 03, 2009, 08:44:37 AM
burch,

My Shrew Hawk is always with me. I've had my personal one for twenty some years. If you want something to fell trees than get an ax. If you want something light enough to carry but will still do most any job you need than this is the ticket.

(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/1st%20with%20Shrew%20Scout.JPG)

I've always carried mine in a belt sheath but I'm really liking the new Frontiersman sheath carry.

http://www.shrewbows.com/Frontiersman/index.html (http://www.shrewbows.com/Frontiersman/index.html)



(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/turkey%202.JPG)
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Post by: burch on May 03, 2009, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: "Longhunter"
burch,

My Shrew Hawk is always with me. I've had my personal one for twenty some years. If you want something to fell trees than get an ax. If you want something light enough to carry but will still do most any job you need than this is the ticket.

(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/1st%20with%20Shrew%20Scout.JPG)

I've always carried mine in a belt sheath but I'm really liking the new Frontiersman sheath carry.

http://www.shrewbows.com/Frontiersman/index.html (http://www.shrewbows.com/Frontiersman/index.html)



(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/turkey%202.JPG)

   Is that a Blackwidow Bow Longhunter ?  Looks like either a recurve or a reflex/deflex.  I also love the stick bows. I have a handmade longbow that Byron Ferguson`s son Zach made me and a handmade recurve that I have no idea who made it. I accually found the recurve and had to do some refinishing on it but both shoot really well. I also build my own arrows. Thanks for pics on the Shrew Hawk.  I`ll bet that Turkey wasn`t easy.
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Post by: Longhunter on May 03, 2009, 10:31:01 AM
No it's not a BW. it's one of my Shrew Scout recurves. check out the Shrew Bows on the website http://www.shrewbows.com/ (http://www.shrewbows.com/)

I just took that turkey last month and it was the quickest turkey hunt I've ever had, read the Gobble Gobble thread on the Hunting Forum

http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingasso ... hp?t=10720 (http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/forum/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10720)
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Post by: mario on May 03, 2009, 02:10:52 PM
Quote from: "burch"
Quote from: "tg"
Small axes are available like the Brit infantry axe, and various belt/bag axes, they would probably have abot a 2" cutting surface and a poll there are several around with various names.

  Seems like ya need a bit more than 2" to cut firewood. Are these type axes more for throwing ?

Depends on the size of the wood. If I was using to cut wood for the stove, yes. But for general stuff around a pack-in camp, it works better than you think.

One small hatchet i own that has impressed me is the Mohawk Axe as carried by RE Davis, TotW, etc. Inexpensive, based on 2 original pieces from NY and a real workhorse even though it's relatively tiny.

Mario