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Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Bigsmoke on October 02, 2008, 11:00:39 AM

Title: PA Hunter Rate of Twist
Post by: Bigsmoke on October 02, 2008, 11:00:39 AM
Does anyone know the rate of twist on a PA Hunter rifle?

The barrel is about 31" long overall.

I know that T/C usually has a 1:48 on most of their rifles, but it seems that on this the rifling looks a bit deeper than normal.

I contacted T/C Customer Service and they said 1:48.

I would do the mark the ramrod thing, but cannot find a jag that small in my stuff.  It has been a lot of years since I shot anything sub .60 cal.

Thanks,
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Post by: BEAVERMAN on October 02, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
John, just checked my sons, its 1:48
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Post by: mossie on October 02, 2008, 06:44:15 PM
I have a TC PA Hunter in octagon to round barrel that is 1/66 twist. It also has a left hand twist and the QLA muzzle. My groove depths are .010 square bottom cut rifleing. The barrel length is 31" and is flintlock.

From what I have seen for the PA Hunter they came with various twists over the years of manufacture. There were some with 1:38 twist and some with 1:48 twist as well as the 1:66 twist.

I glass bedded my stocks ( I have a 21" barrel in 1:66 twist too), use a .54 bore button under a .495 Hornady ball. A .020 patch and a .490 ball shoots well too. My locks were also replaced by TC free of charge for their newer design and they are a huge improvement over the older style. Mine shoot great from 60-110 grains of Goex with a small margin of accuracy improvement with 2f over 3f. Swiss 2f is outstanding in my barrels.

They are nice rifles but mine took quite a bit of tweeking to really tune it in. Use a bore button over your powder in this rifle.
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Post by: Gambia on October 03, 2008, 06:13:54 AM
Got 2 of them and both are 1-66" twist. they were made specifically for shootin round balls.
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Post by: Uncle Russ on October 03, 2008, 03:48:33 PM
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John, just checked my sons, its 1:48

Jim, if that is the one you got from me you may want to check that again, I have always thought that it was 1:66...but I could have been wrong.

Also, I have always read that any T/C with a 1/2 octagon / round  barrel was 1:66....dunnno. Might want to check.

Uncle Russ...
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Post by: Buck Hunter 1 on November 19, 2008, 10:30:17 AM
1:48 on newer models, 1:66 on the leders. I do not know a cut off date maybe CS could help you there.
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Post by: BEAVERMAN on November 19, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
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Quote from: "BEAVERMAN"
John, just checked my sons, its 1:48

Jim, if that is the one you got from me you may want to check that again, I have always thought that it was 1:66...but I could have been wrong.

Also, I have always read that any T/C with a 1/2 octagon / round  barrel was 1:66....dunnno. Might want to check.

Uncle Russ...


Russ, you be correct, I hade him check when this was first posted, he brought the rifle over last night to fit for a custon sling Im making for it, its 1:66 roundball barrel!
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Post by: oomcurt on November 19, 2008, 12:52:51 PM
Not meaning to change the subject....but what is a bore button?
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Post by: Bigsmoke on November 19, 2008, 01:29:30 PM
Curt,
A bore button is a 1/8" thick, wool felt bore sized piece of material that has typically been prelubricated with some sort of lubricant.

Ox Yoke makes them as Wonder Wads.  

I think Eastern Maine Shooting Supplies, Buffalo Bullets (if they are still around), Traditions, Thompson Center and others all offer similar products, a lot made by the same manufacturer.
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Post by: Buck Hunter 1 on December 14, 2008, 09:29:31 AM
These are used more on conicals than RB's,
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Post by: Riley/MN on December 14, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
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These are used more on conicals than RB's,

However they do work great under a PRB -'specially if you've got a rough bore...
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Post by: Bigsmoke on December 15, 2008, 10:24:36 AM
I have been advocating their use on big bore rifles for some time, especially ones that use rather stout powder charges.
I have found that over say 150 grains of powder will produce some awfully bad patch burning.
Actually, I do prefer lubricate cushion wads to Wonder Wads, but...  close.