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Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Longhunter on December 12, 2008, 10:03:05 PM

Title: A 32" barrel smoothbore?
Post by: Longhunter on December 12, 2008, 10:03:05 PM
Jackie Brown has a .62 smoothbore for sale. It only has a 32" barrel. Anyone have any experience with a barrel this short in a smothbore?
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Post by: Christiaan on December 13, 2008, 07:13:47 AM
Longhunter, when I visited Euroarms in Brescia, Italy.  I saw some Buffalo Hunt Carbines lying there to one side.  I asked them what they were.  They said they build it for Navy Arms years ago and it was a 12ga.  I thought the barrel was a bit short but ordered some.

I was so surprised by the accuracy.  At 50 yards it shoots clover leaves in the hands of a good shooter.  I must confess I don't have a lot of experience with smoothies.
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Post by: Gambia on December 13, 2008, 10:06:36 AM
If you want it for shot then it will be ok loaded with 2.3/4 drms of black powder to 1oz of shot ,this load will kill game at 35 yards..
Feltwad
A Flint Lock will not secure a chicken house door
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Post by: Captchee on December 13, 2008, 10:22:12 AM
my wife has a canoe gun with a 24 in 62 cal barrel , she can hold her own very well out to about 35 yards with it  so i dont feel you would have any problem with a 32 inch  barrel
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Post by: Bigsmoke on December 13, 2008, 11:21:24 AM
Uhhh, think about most any double barrel shotgun.  How long are the barrels on them?

T/C had a 12 ga barrel for the New Englander, it was what, 26 - 28"?  I had one of those for a while and it was great to shoot - shot or ball.
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Post by: Longhunter on December 13, 2008, 12:49:37 PM
I'd shoot shot out of it but I want a gun that will shoot a ball with reasonably good accuracy too.

I've never heard anything bad about Jackies guns. He makes his own barrels and said he's never had any complaints about their accuracy. He also makes a canoe gun with a 24" barrel.

I've got an old Mod 97 Winchester riot gun with an 18" barrel and it throws a slug plum center.. so I'm thinkin you shouldn't lose and accuracy with a shorter barrel...??
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Post by: hawkeye on December 13, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
I have a Jackie Brown canoe gun in 28 bore that works well with shot. It's not half bad with a ball either but it's just too short and light for accurate ball shooting.  I stick to 1oz shot and 70gr 2f and it's my "go to" small game gun.
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Post by: butterchurn on December 14, 2008, 10:30:35 PM
Jackie is a very nice fella and I personally like him.  If you do get one of his guns, just know that you might have to tinker with it a bit to get it right.  Sometimes his guns are good and some just so-so.  I bought one from him and had to work on the lock mortice to get the lock to set up against the barrel right.  As it was, powder placed in the pan would easily fall down inside the lock.  Bad juju.  Also the butt plate did not fit right and there were other inletting issues.

I was able to fix most of the issues.  Some I haven't got around to, yet.
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Post by: Longhunter on December 15, 2008, 04:57:09 PM
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Jackie is a very nice fella and I personally like him. If you do get one of his guns, just know that you might have to tinker with it a bit to get it right. Sometimes his guns are good and some just so-so. I bought one from him and had to work on the lock mortice to get the lock to set up against the barrel right. As it was, powder placed in the pan would easily fall down inside the lock. Bad juju. Also the butt plate did not fit right and there were other inletting issues.

I was able to fix most of the issues. Some I haven't got around to, yet.

Oh NO!  :roll eyes...  :lol
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Post by: hawkeye on December 15, 2008, 05:16:21 PM
If it's one he already built it might be better than one he rushes to build you.  That's been my experience. Plus, he does accept returns.
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Post by: Longhunter on December 15, 2008, 05:20:07 PM
He was building it for a customer and the guy changed his mind on the barrel length so it was unfinished. He said he could have it done and ship it by the 17th...I hope that's not "rushing" him.  :lol:
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Post by: butterchurn on December 16, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
Don't get me wrong.  He does a good job, he does get rushed sometimes and doesn't pay attention to some details.  Nothing you can't fix, or send it back and let him fix it.  My Jackie Brown fowler is a fine gun.  Shoots well and balances well.  I just needed to do a little adjusting.  I have no plans to sell mine.  The walnut he used to make mine was very fancy and I got it for plain walnut price.

Like I said, I like Jackie.  He is a nice guy.
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Post by: hawkeye on December 16, 2008, 01:37:52 PM
I'll second everything Butterchurn said.  I have a 28 bore canoe gun and a .62 cal Early Virginia rifle both made by Jackie and they are both good guns. Especially for the price.
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Post by: Longhunter on December 16, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Thanks guys... :rt th
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Post by: nessy357 on December 16, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
I have a Carolina Fowler built by Jackie, price was excellent !
Wouldn't trade it for anything .

Cheers Bob.
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Post by: markinmi on December 18, 2008, 03:14:03 AM
Gotta put in my two cents on Jackie.I had a Lanchester fowler(wish I still did)and my brother has a carolina and had a canoe gun.All were very nice guns.
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Post by: Longhunter on December 18, 2008, 04:49:09 PM
I talked to Jackie yesterday and he said he's shipping it out today. Maybe I'll be able to try her out this weekend.  I'll post pictures when I get it. :happy
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Post by: hawkeye on December 18, 2008, 04:54:07 PM
That's a nice Christmas gift. :bl th up  I'll be interested to see what you think of his workmanship.  Just an FYI, Jackie states that his smoothbore barrel steel is hard enough to be able to use steel shot in case you wanted to waterfowl hunt with it. Not that I would ever shoot bare steel in any of my guns.