Post by: Ohio Joe on October 14, 2016, 10:06:11 PM
I'm working up a build for in the Spring (2017), and just want to go with something I haven't used yet (L&R Durs Egg)...
Your thoughts?
Post by: RobD on October 14, 2016, 10:15:20 PM
jackie's putting an L&R queen anne in the new .62 smoothie due in to me next month, hope it's just as good.
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 14, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Post by: RobD on October 15, 2016, 05:09:09 AM
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 15, 2016, 07:38:35 AM
Post by: Two Steps on October 15, 2016, 12:45:54 PM
Al
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 15, 2016, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: "Two Steps"
Joe...I have a L&R Durs Egg on a .50cal early TN rifle. I've had it since 06 and haven't noticed any problems with it. It's pretty fast (and I'm darn sure not a good "tuner") and the spring feels fine to me. as always YMMV. Good luck!
Al
Thanks Al, I appreciate the information. I've got that building itch, so the Durs Egg it is.
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 09:07:54 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20double%20gun/borders10.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20double%20gun/borders7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20double%20gun/borders3.jpg)
This is a double I built years ago that uses the Durrs Egg locks. You can see on the left one that the flint is now up and away from the vent hole now. These locks now are very good and very fast, this gun has won "Top Gun" on the sporting clays range at Friendship many times.
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20squirrel%20rifle/br3.jpg)
Post by: RobD on October 16, 2016, 09:23:27 AM
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: "Mike Brooks"
BTW, Have you used Chambers late Ketland yet? It is easily 2X the lock that the Durrs Egg is. Chambers quality is hard to beat and that particular lock is probably the fastest factory lock on the market.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20squirrel%20rifle/br3.jpg)
Mike, thanks for the heads up on the Durs Egg. I appreciate your input for sure. Almost sounds like the luck of the draw if you get one.
I will take a look at the Chambers lock, I know they are considered top notch just like the Siler locks. Glad you jumped in here. We all value your reputation as a builder. Thanks again!
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: "Rob DiStefano"
chambers-siler late ketland is nothing less than Superb. i've had them on my last two rifles, and one is going into the new flintlock "hawken" rifle.
I agree completely Rob. :shake
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: "Mike Brooks"
BTW, Have you used Chambers late Ketland yet? It is easily 2X the lock that the Durrs Egg is. Chambers quality is hard to beat and that particular lock is probably the fastest factory lock on the market.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Borders%20squirrel%20rifle/br3.jpg)
Mike, is that the Classic Ketland?
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 11:11:16 AM
Here's the gun, 29" swamped Colerain barrel, early ketland lock, Iowa grown black walnut stock. This is a "stripped down" model I built just for my own hunting purposes, bare minimum of parts to get the job done.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/350%20English%20Gamekeepers%20Rifle/350a_zpsbuy0jkrj.jpg)
The rest of the pics are here if you want to see them.
350 English Gamekeepers Rifle by Gunmaker | Photobucket (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Gunmaker/library/350%20English%20Gamekeepers%20Rifle?sort=3&page=1)
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 11:16:47 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/345%20NC%20Deep%20River%20repop/345b_zpswswhyedv.jpg)
Had a little trouble with it off the start, operator error. Once I flipped the flint over and used a bit longer flint it's now real fast and dependable, good flint life too.
Post by: Bigsmoke on October 16, 2016, 11:29:29 AM
We used them for several years on our big bore rifles and always had excellent results.
Frankly, I have been away from the gun building market since 2005 and have not really kept up much contact with that part of the muzzleloading world, having been most interested in powder horn building.
Well, so it goes, I reckon.
John
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
I had a fowling gun that I used their Queen Anne lock on. It was a champ of a lock, fast and dependable and I got 140 shots out of a flint once. Only problem was a broke frizzen spring that they replaced for free. Also, they replaced my worn frizzen for free at that time too. I kept the worn one on the gun and kept the new replacement in case the worn one quit working. Probably had around 8,000 rounds out of that gun or more. Used it for skeet and sporting clays.
Post by: RobD on October 16, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
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Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 01:12:00 PM
BTW; nice coyote shot, Mike! Luck, or not...
Post by: RobD on October 16, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
Sure am sorry to hear of the decline if quality for the L & R locks. .... <snip!>
i find that very hard to believe and before ya know it, *some* folks reading this thread may unfairly forge a black mark on L&R locks.
L&R, davis, chambers, and surely others - these reputable name brand folks will all stand by their products, they'd be complete fools not to since their market is a small niche sport and they're all in a competition of sorts. i'd give 'em all a fair opportunity to back up their offerings and take care of their customer's product issues.
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 04:10:42 PM
Back in the 80's all the competitive shooters liked the L&R locks because of their short hammer throws and generally smaller lock size which made them pretty fast. I thought they were great locks and they have always had great customer service if you have trouble. Now there is a lot of competition from other lock makers and that gives all of us an incredible amount of choices. All seems good to me.
Post by: Mike Brooks on October 16, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: "Rob DiStefano"
the chris walker smooth rifle i just sold has a davis colonial american 2 screw lock, another goodie for sure.That is a great lock too, I have probably used 1/2 dozen of them since they came out...probably more. It's really fast for a big lock and is dependable. I think the internals are the same as their Jeager lock. I ordered one from TOTW last week for a jeager rifle I want to build for myself this winter. I just got the barrel from Bobby Hoyt, Swamped 25" .58 cal with a 1 in 34 twist. All of the original jeagers I have handled all have one twist in the length of the barrel I was too chicken to go with a 1 in 25 so Hoyt suggested a 1 in 34 instead. I'm trying to figure out what the old timers knew and we forgot.....fast twist with a big ball and short barrel....doesn't make much sense today, but I'm going to figure it out. I'm thinking lightish powder charge and a very tight patch/ball combo something like a 50 yard masher..... We'll see!
(http://www.redaviscompany.com/images/products/1122big.jpg)
This will be the 3rd gun I have built for myself this past year. I got tired of never having a ML to shoot so I vowed to fix that problem....now I can't stop!
Post by: Ohio Joe on October 16, 2016, 04:47:27 PM
Post by: RobD on October 16, 2016, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
..... I'll use the Bailes capper for a new build for my grandson when he's a bit older. Least ways that's the plan. :bl th up :salute
oh, wait, :rofl :shake
Post by: Hawken on October 16, 2016, 11:46:36 PM
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