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Title: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: PetahW on January 24, 2022, 04:53:48 PM
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Has anybody else heard about this ?   :toast

(EDIT 1/26/22) Estes bought GOEX & registered the deal - see the proof in my post today in this thread)
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Nessmuk on January 24, 2022, 06:43:26 PM
What will they do? Make Black Powder Pellets? Actually, that might not be far off, model rocket engines are just compressed propellent.
But no, I haven't heard that rumor.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 24, 2022, 09:01:04 PM
This is the first I've heard this. If they're going to continue with the Goex Black Powder, I'll certainly support them.  :bl th up
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Fyrstyk on January 25, 2022, 07:44:34 AM
The news seems to be spreading fast amongst the forums, but to date there has been no verified proof.  I'll be waiting to see if this all rings true, and if it does I hope will will see a U.S. black powder producer again.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: PetahW on January 25, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
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FWIW, I came across this:

"In looking at some of the Rocket forums it appears as though GOEX has long supplied Estes with a rocket propellant substance known as Meal Powder for their engines; so maybe Estes did in fact buy GOEX to ensure a steady supply for their product(s)."



One can only hope that they will also make sporting powder.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Hanshi on January 25, 2022, 02:54:11 PM
I heard about this several days ago but just didn't want to get my hopes up.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 26, 2022, 03:03:57 AM
I have also heard this rumor, and I was just holding my breath. maybe I was just afraid to breath, or whatever...."when it sounds to good to be true", you know the rest of the story!

I would like very much to hear or read something more definite on their plans for sporting powder.
I fully realize there's plenty good powder out there right now, just no Goex.
And when old fools like myself get something in his head, It's almost like I'm being disloyal by shooting something else.

Russ..
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Hank in WV on January 26, 2022, 05:10:32 AM
It's kinda like it belongs in the "If it works, don't fix it" category.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Nessmuk on January 26, 2022, 01:10:54 PM
According to Wikipedia ,  Meal powder is the dust left over from the coning process from granulating gunpowder. I would say this rumor would make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 26, 2022, 07:20:54 PM
According to Wikipedia ,  Meal powder is the dust left over from the coning process from granulating gunpowder. I would say this rumor would make a lot of sense.

Yes... I recall reading about Meal Powder; seems (way back when) a plant went up when a wagon wheel created a spark on the cobblestone and the dust acted like a fuse and ignited the facility into one big explosion... This was obviously way back during the horse and buggy days - but one still needs to take care in the manufacturing process.
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: BEAVERMAN on January 26, 2022, 08:03:21 PM
I have also heard this rumor, and I was just holding my breath. maybe I was just afraid to breath, or whatever...."when it sounds to good to be true", you know the rest of the story!

I would like very much to hear or read something more definite on their plans for sporting powder.
I fully realize there's plenty good powder out there right now, just no Goex.
And when old fools like myself get something in his head, It's almost like I'm being disloyal by shooting something else.

Russ..

I agree 100% Uncle Russ, not to mention the range time spent working up new loads for all my guns!!!!  Oh wait, that could lead to PHUN! or massive frustration!
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: PetahW on January 26, 2022, 09:43:51 PM
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The rumor is true.

Estes bought GOEX, and the acquisition is listed on a Louisiana government website:

https://coraweb.sos.la.gov/commercialsearch/CommercialSearchDetails.aspx?CharterID=1629928_DCD599B892
Title: Re: RUMOR: Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX ? ?
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 26, 2022, 10:27:50 PM
I have also heard this rumor, and I was just holding my breath. maybe I was just afraid to breath, or whatever...."when it sounds to good to be true", you know the rest of the story!

I would like very much to hear or read something more definite on their plans for sporting powder.
I fully realize there's plenty good powder out there right now, just no Goex.
And when old fools like myself get something in his head, It's almost like I'm being disloyal by shooting something else.

Russ..

I agree 100% Uncle Russ, not to mention the range time spent working up new loads for all my guns!!!!  Oh wait, that could lead to PHUN! or massive frustration!

Jim, that working up new loads came into my mind as well...

Then I thought to myself; I've shot other BP and the point of impact wasn't that much different... However, the fouling always seemed to be a bit different, but I write that off to what wood was being used in making it.

To be honest, I'm open to any availability of BP being made here in the good ol' USA. I'll support it.  :shake
Title: Re: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: Nessmuk on January 27, 2022, 10:01:39 AM
 If ESTES keeps GOEX producing black powder then all my grandchildren are getting model rockets this Christmas .   :lol sign
Title: Re: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: Bigsmoke on January 27, 2022, 03:29:28 PM
What Nessmuk said.
WAIT
I don't have any grandkids.  Oh well, I will get one of their rockets for someone.  And buy a can of their powder when it is available.
John (Bigsmoke)
Title: Re: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: BEAVERMAN on January 31, 2022, 11:51:37 AM
Here's another article that may answer some questions!

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/estes-energetics-to-extend-the-goex-black-powder-production-legacy-301470912.html
Title: Re: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 31, 2022, 01:07:58 PM
 :hairy
Title: Re: RUMOR No More - Estes Rocketry Buying GOEX
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 31, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
 :yessir:

Thanks Jim!