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Craftsmanship => Accoutrements => Topic started by: rickevans on March 07, 2009, 07:02:07 PM

Title: What do all y'all use on your leather goods?
Post by: rickevans on March 07, 2009, 07:02:07 PM

I am working on a new buffalo hide shooting bag and a new belt. After staining they sure look dull.  Do you guys use shoe polish, wax, mink oil, saddle soap or what to give the leather a nice healthy look?

Rick

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Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on March 07, 2009, 08:31:51 PM

A lot depends on what your end goal is. I use saddle soap and neatsfoot oil. If you want waterproof to be the main point then a wax will work or bear grease or other animal fat. Of corse there are modern waterproofing compounds and chemicals that are supposed to be 100% effective. A lot depends on how HC you want to be or if you just want to look good cosmeticly . I also use bore butter if I have nothing else.

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Post by: Indiana on March 08, 2009, 12:50:18 AM

I use pecard leather dressing to condition leather.  It will also impart a nice shine upon the leather.  It's the best dressing I have found and was reccomended to me by someone who has been trying to find the "right" leather dressing for a few decades now.  It's not PC, but it works.

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Post by: cb on March 08, 2009, 04:14:36 AM

Rick - part of that dullness may be due to the dye - not sure what you used but if it's a commercial leather dye you should buff it well with a clean, dry cloth before adding any kind of finish.
Commercial dyes are basically a powdered pigment suspended in a liquid carrier (i.e. alcohol, toluene, etc) and when the carrier evaporates off it leaves a fine residue of the powder which will leave a dull finish and will also rub off if not removed prior to finishing - thus the need to buff well.

A commercial version of a PC finish is Montana Pitchblend - a mix of beeswax, mink oil, and pine pitch - and one of my favorites and after 48 years being in the leather crafting biz I've tried about everything.
Otherwise if you want to stay as PC as possible you can make your own dubbin - which is a mix of tallow or lard (NOT Crisco, but real lard), beeswax, and oil - the oil can be olive oil, mink oil, neatsfoot, or cod liver - bear is great if you can get it.
One mix I use is 5 parts lard, 5 parts beeswax, and 1 or two parts extra virgin olive oil, depending on how thick I want it - melt together over a low fire or use a double boiler, por off and let cool. Apply in LIGHT coats, let absorb, and buff with a dry cloth for a low gloss satin shene. FWIW - OVER oiling leather is one of the worst things one can do - leather is best at 18-22% "oil", more than that and it can and will breakdown the cell walls, leading to damage.

As noted there are many more finishes from traditional (i.e. Hubbard's Shoe Grease and Sno Seal) to modern hi-tech (i.e.  Resolene).......

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Post by: tg on March 08, 2009, 11:41:02 AM

Hubbards is pretty good stuff. I got mine free for several years, the owner gave me the dented cans, it is pretty much the same as brewers pitch, he would not say exactly what it was but he did say it would not hurt you if you lined a drinking vessel with it.

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Post by: rickevans on March 08, 2009, 11:54:47 AM

Thanks men.  I will buff the pieces first and see how they look. Not after a water proof finish, just a preservative of sorts to keep the leadther in good shape.

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Post by: Three Hawks on March 08, 2009, 02:29:23 PM

I use Huberd's Shoe Grease on most any thing leather, even me.   It's got neatsfoot oil,  beeswax and pine tar amongst other things and is  good for shoes, boots, belts, gunslings,  holsters, and the exposed parts of Norwegians.  It does tend to darken everything but the Norskies.  Plus it smells very good.

I think I'll draw the line at lining my canteen with it, though.

Three Hawks

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Post by: rickevans on March 08, 2009, 02:43:15 PM

Where would one find Hubbards Shoe grease?

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Post by: BEAVERMAN on March 08, 2009, 08:24:35 PM

WHITES BOOT PRESERVATIVE!!!!!!!!! BEST ON THE MARKET, tey have a web site

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Post by: rickevans on March 08, 2009, 08:50:03 PM

Hhhhhmmmm. Beaverman does know his leather stuff.

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Post by: BEAVERMAN on March 08, 2009, 09:13:20 PM

Quote from: "rickevans"

Hhhhhmmmm. Beaverman does know his leather stuff.

 So does CB, Im a rookie compared to Chuck!

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Post by: cb on March 09, 2009, 11:01:34 AM

White's is good stuff - used to use if when I was logging in the PNW, but like the MT Pitchblend as well which it and Huberd's IMO are about the same........Obenauf's is also good as a water "proofer".......

And Beaverman - compared to some of the "old" timers I know I still feel like a rookie!

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Post by: rickevans on March 10, 2009, 11:09:11 PM

I ordered some of Whites Preservative on-line. I will have some new leather goods in my kit for my shifts at the TMA table at the Kalamazoo Living History Show. I buffed the goods per cb's note, that did make a difference, just don't wantthe leather to get all dried out.

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Post by: BEAVERMAN on March 10, 2009, 11:48:00 PM

One of the good things about the Whites is the fact it has an anti bacterial in it which will keep the leather from developing that white hazy mold on the surface if stored for a long period in the dark!

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Post by: melsdad on March 11, 2009, 06:40:54 AM

BEAVERMAN reccommended the White's boot dressing to me, and I have had good luck with it so far. I probably have about 4 coats on my pouch, and it has been in some wet weather, and kept everything dry inside. I coated all my hunting boots as well, and my feet stayed dry. Love the stuff!!!

Thanks Jim!