Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Traditional Firearms => Flintlock Long Guns => Topic started by: toot on September 27, 2019, 10:04:45 AM
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what was the purpose of red painted stocks on a FUZZE FINN trade musket?
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Trade gun
As far as I know it was to catch the eye of "les Sauvages”.
Least thats what I suspect with all the other painted trade guns.
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Trade gun
As far as I know it was to catch the eye of "les Sauvages”.
Least thats what I suspect with all the other painted trade guns.
I can understand this. Kind'a like the "bling" of the day back then. :shake
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was there any difference in a RED one and a BLUE ONE?? because those were the only two colors that seem to have been used?? CHIEF, VERSES SUB CHIEF? do any period pictures of them exist?
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any one got input on red verses blue??
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Some tribes were Republicans, some Democrat. Hence, red and blue.
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:lol sign
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Some tribes were Republicans, some Democrat. Hence, red and blue.
My goodness! The things we learn as we go through life: :luff:
I needed that Semisane!
:lol sign :lol sign :bow
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Hoo boy, my wife almost rolled out of bed when I read that to her! I like how you think.... :toast :luff:
~Kees~
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there were some examples of rifles that were also painted some folks refer to them as barn guns or poor boys. For awhile there were some reproductions made and sold at Dixons in Kempton Pa.
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One of the collectors I worked with years ago had an original gun that was a bright international orange. I don't think it had faded from red. Butt ugly to my eye.
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One of the collectors I worked with years ago had an original gun that was a bright international orange. I don't think it had faded from red. Butt ugly to my eye.
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One of the collectors I worked with years ago had an original gun that was a bright international orange. I don't think it had faded from red. Butt ugly to my eye.
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Oh my gosh, lets not give Game & Parks any ideas requiring us to use hunter orange muzzleloading rifles... :lol sign
I shouldn't poke fun about this - in today's world, it could happen... :o
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One of the collectors I worked with years ago had an original gun that was a bright international orange. I don't think it had faded from red. Butt ugly to my eye.
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Now you fellas done gone and got me scaired... :lol sign Givin' them idiots ideas is mitey dangerous, I be thinking...
Oh my gosh, lets not give Game & Parks any ideas requiring us to use hunter orange muzzleloading rifles... :lol sign
I shouldn't poke fun about this - in today's world, it could happen... :o
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If I had the cash Id buy this one in a minute!!
https://claysmithguns.com/trade_gun_West.htm
Or this one!
https://claysmithguns.com/trade_gun_Redvine.htm
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Bull, to my eye, those look good. Way better then the other colors we've seen... I wouldn't mind having those myself.
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I believe that the first one is a replica of one held by a Native American in this painting, 'The Death of General Wolfe' by Benjamin West.
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Very well could be. Enlarging the screen, it looks right.
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I did some researching on them thar "Semisanes" tribe ol' Uncle Russ mentioned. They be scattered all across the USofA. And, y'all don't need to be borned into their tribe. They accept y'all if'n you quality with their likings. I qualified yeas back and was recently notified by an unmentionable source. Ain't no benefits, just braggin' rights, if'n ya wants to let folks know about ya ( if'n they weren't awares already).
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thanks for the come back. thank GOD that there are more RED ones than blue! hope I got it right, RED REPUBLICAN? hope so?
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as history reports, there were lotsa different colors and hues of colors used with painted stocks, that included shades of yellow and green, too. it's clearly a personally subjective thing. umm, thank you but no thank you - slapping on gaudy paint to hide any manner of wood grain may work for injuns but don't work for me. ymmv.
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I can't say as I would care for a painted stock, but I've never been one for "bling" so to speak... I guess I'd rather have a poor walnut stained stock then any painted stock... I do understand that back in the day (and today) some folks like the bright shiny stuff - but it isn't me... I'm a dull person I reckon... :shake
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Did the painted stocks represent which tribes the Native Americans were associated with (Blue for French, Red for English, and so forth)?
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I asked a Native American friend of mine about this painting of weapons. After querying his elders, he stated many weapons (guns, bows, tomahawks, knives) were painted with colors of power. Red for fire or blood, blue for wind or breath. This was supposed to increase their power?
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I can see that. They are a very spiritual people.