Like I said I don't know how to put it any plainer a bullet designed in the last half of the 20th century without any use of earlier ML bullest as a guideline is not a traditional bullet, if yo have a nice flinter that follows the lines of the originals most would consider it to be a traditional gun, if you use a PRB or a style of bullet that was avaiable during the time period of the flinter it would be a traditional outfit (with primitive sights) shove the 20th century bullet down the tube and it is not, one can take a traditional gun use a modern bullet,fast twist barrel and modern peep sights and create a significant advantage over the traditional gun and primitive sights and period projectile. You can call yopur outfit and your self whatever you want,I just look to the logic, ballistics and facts when judging gun and gear to be traditional or not, I do not think it is fair to those who are new to the sport to be fed a watered down definition of traditional, I don't know why people have to spin the modern stuff into the traditional world, i can only assume it is from some sense of belonging to a group that is trying to maintain the ways of the original ML hunters and use the same ype of gear they did, as I have said before you can take a Renagade or similar gun, put modern high tech sights on it and use a modern design bullet which neither of the two would have been used on a similar gun in the past, and theony difference in that gun and a modern Inline is the position of the hammer, If you soup up an old style ML to be equal in range and ballistics as a large bore (45/70) cartridge gun you are no longer in the traditional ML world, but if it makes someone feel better to toss the term loosley around that's their right to do so but the majority of those who try to share the experience of gun and gear that out ancestors did know what the real deal is, I don't think here is much point in going any farther with this, if the oint is not driven home after this many posts it is never likley to be understood. I have no interest in what someone shoots only an interest in keeping a reasonable definition of that which is traditional vs that which is modern, set the bar to low and there is no point in even trying to seperate the two, and if we get to that point the ML's may be at risk as much as the centerfires when it comes to gun laws, Many states had shotgun/archery only deer hunts due to heavly urban areas the shorter range weapons were the choice authorities made, now most of these have included ML's which can be loaded to shoot out to 250 yds with all the modern accesories, and yes there were ML's in the past that shot 1000 yds but to stay in the realm of what type of ML's people are useing to hunt with today, once the powers that be see what the potential is for a ML they may vary well be classefied with modern guns, most are down on modern ML's use in ML hunting seasons but at the same time many advocate the use of accesories that put the traditional styed sidelock in the same range and ballistic category as the dreaded inline, the position of the lock is not and never has been the issue it does not alter the guns performance in a manner that is even close to what superior sights and projectiles do. At any rate call it what you wish, but do try and consider those yet to enjoy this sport and let's not modernize the "tradition"out of it completely.