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Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Adam Wetherington on February 20, 2012, 05:26:32 PM

Title: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: Adam Wetherington on February 20, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Hey guys, I'm going to be putting a kit together for my friend for his college graduation. He want's a Tulle since his ancestors were French-Canadian but he doesn't know whether to get it with brass or iron hardware. I can't give him an answer since Tulle's aren't really my thing and I don't have any literature on them. It's not meant to be 100% HC since he isn't in to reenacting or anything but since it is an option, he want's to know which is the better choice historically.

Any help?

Thanks.

Adam
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: 2 Locks on February 20, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Have him watch the video in this post:
http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingasso ... 66&t=16828 (http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=16828)
Both kinds of hardware are discussed.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: mario on February 20, 2012, 08:43:13 PM
Based on existing examples, iron furniture is the most correct for a basic hunting fusil from Tulle.

Brass is found on other guns (fusils de traite, etc).

Anyone interested in pre-1760 French guns should own a copy of The French Trade Gun in North America: 1662-1759 by Kevin Gladysz.



Mario
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: mario on February 20, 2012, 08:46:09 PM
Sorry. Double post.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: Adam Wetherington on February 20, 2012, 09:48:39 PM
Gracias.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: trg on February 21, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
Just for the heck of it you might mention to him that Tulle is a town in France and an armoury not realy a type of French gun, many are not aware of this so the missnomenclature goes on and the suppliers go along with it unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: James Kelly on March 12, 2012, 02:13:36 PM
Here is my brass mounted Caywood Type D
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: mario on March 12, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
Quote from: "James Kelly"
Here is my brass mounted Caywood Type D

As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: Adam Wetherington on March 12, 2012, 03:56:29 PM
I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: greyhunter on March 12, 2012, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: "blackpowderscout"
I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.
:rotf  :rotf  :hairy
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: mario on March 12, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
Quote from: "blackpowderscout"
I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.


Where you putting the bottle opener?

Mario
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: Adam Wetherington on March 13, 2012, 06:56:48 AM
Front of the triggerguard....it's more convienient there I think.
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: rickevans on March 15, 2012, 08:52:40 AM
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As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario

Thanks for the details, Mario.  My French is not the best, "Fusils de Traite" is a trade smoothbore?
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: mario on March 15, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: "rickevans"
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As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario

Thanks for the details, Mario.  My French is not the best, "Fusils de Traite" is a trade smoothbore?

Yup. Fusil being the period French term for a smoothbore gun that uses a flint lock.

Fusil de chasse = "gun for the hunt" (In modern French this is a "shotgun")

Fusil de traite = "gun for the trade"

Mario
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: trg on April 15, 2012, 08:07:43 PM
And do not forget the Fusil de Calcutta... the French gun from  India
Title: Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
Post by: sse on April 19, 2012, 09:26:33 AM
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fusil de redneck
You could always splurge and go for a fusil fin de redneck...  LOL