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Re: Caps?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2014, 10:56:49 PM »
You know, Ron, that's what makes this country so good.  We are all entitled to our opinion, whatever it is.  And they are all valid.  Whatever works for you is what you should use.  Whatever works for me is what I should use.
Years ago (30+), Mrs. Smoke bought me a beautiful Tennessee rifle, .45 cal. flinter.  Prettiest piece of maple I have ever seen.  I really don't care to shoot it cause of its ignition, but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2014, 02:10:21 AM »
Yes, John... that's true as long as we always remember to "respect" the other man's opinion whether or not we agree with it... n'est pas, mon ami?   :laffing

My "boys" (they're both over 50 years old, so they're not really "boys" anymore) shoot those saboted 295 grain, .50 caliber jacketed, hollow-point bullets at deer using 3 of those powder "disks" (50 grains EACH) and while both of the boys are strong, stout young fellas, that unnecessarily heavy load REALLY sits 'em straight-up when shooting their in-line rifles off of the bench-rest while checking the zero of their scope-equipped in-line rifles.

My "puny" 70 grains of Swiss FFFg, my deer-hunting load outta my older, cap-lock CVA Hawken-Hunter Carbine (24-inch barrel, 6½ lbs.), puts a .490-inch Hornady swagged, patched rifle ball through BOTH sides of a deer at 80 yards or less (usually "less"... "80 yards" is my self-imposed maximum hunting range with my M.L.) and a "hit" in the deer's "kill zone" normally goes through both sides and generally offers a easy "blood trail" to follow if the deer goes very far (which it usually doesn't) in dense cover.

I chronographed the boy's hunting loads while at my club's shooting range a few years ago... and ya don't "need" an almost 300 grain saboted, jacketed hollow-pointed bullet at 2,015 fps to bring down even the biggest deer that ever roamed a deer-woods.  There just isn't any big grizzly bears or elephants in Ohio's deer woods the last time I checked.  Their loads are massive examples of "over-kill" and painful recoil.

Butttttttttttttttttttttt... I say "nuthin' " even though I have to sometimes bite-my-tongue until it bleeds to keep my big mouth "shut"!

There ARE times when "respect" for someone's opinion is tough to come by... but we keep trying, eh?   :lt th


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Re: Caps?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2014, 09:25:37 AM »
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but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.
Hmm...45 flinter...beautiful wood...lotta trees around here.  Just how big a stick are we talking here John?!  :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2014, 10:29:48 AM »
Al, it would be bigger than you could lift, my friend.  
Refer to the section about prying cold, dead fingers and all that.
Serious now, that is one rifle that I will not ever trade off.  It is a keeper to me.  IMHO, one of the very best to come out of the TVM's shop.
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2014, 11:13:56 AM »
Well...Ok...I guess :rt th )
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2014, 04:44:23 PM »
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
You know, Ron, that's what makes this country so good.  We are all entitled to our opinion, whatever it is.  And they are all valid.  Whatever works for you is what you should use.  Whatever works for me is what I should use.
Years ago (30+), Mrs. Smoke bought me a beautiful Tennessee rifle, .45 cal. flinter.  Prettiest piece of maple I have ever seen.  I really don't care to shoot it cause of its ignition, but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 02:00:43 PM »
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I got a big stick - I walk softly too....

And I got a great big pot of home-made spaghetti with lots of pressed garlic, mushrooms, Roma 'maters, Italian Peppers, and a lovely loaf of lightly toasted French Bread, with Parmesan, real butter, and light garlic.  

Bring the gun on your next trip...........  :shock:

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Re: Caps?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 03:55:43 PM »
I started off using RWS and Remington caps back around 1966 and found them to be excellent.  I've used a lot of CCI caps, too, but only have CCI magnum caps at this time.  The reason is that the last time I ordered caps I bought a 1000 cap brick.  Basically, I will use about any cap that comes along.

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Re: Caps?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 06:14:21 PM »
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Muley, when I shoot my cap guns I use CCIs.  Pretty much always have as they were what I got first.  Never tried any of the mags.  Never had a problem with the CCI #11s.
There is a thread going on right now about different brand caps.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19383
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I did exactly as "Two-Steps" did... regular CCIs were the first percussion caps I bought (a box of 1,000) and they've always worked just fine for me.  I've thought about going to CCI Magnum "caps", but why change when the regular CCI "caps" have never failed to fire?  Then, too... merely exchanging regular CCI "caps" for their Magnum caps might change the accuracy of the loads I've worked up for my two Hawken Rifles.

I've always adhere'd to that old saying... "If-n it ain't broke, DON'T fix it!"     :lol sign  


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Re: Caps?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2014, 09:31:11 PM »
Sorry but i just dont trust them new fangeled things. I perfer rock locks
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2014, 12:04:46 PM »
I've been using Remington #11's for over a year.  Haven't had any problems.   :wave
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2014, 08:15:04 PM »
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Yes, John... that's true as long as we always remember to "respect" the other man's opinion whether or not we agree with it... n'est pas, mon ami?   :shake [/color]
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Re: Caps?
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2014, 12:14:18 PM »
You folks are lucky to have choices. I use what ever is on the store shelf, and I am happy if there is anything there.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2014, 08:55:24 AM »
I have not noticed any difference in mine, by cap brand. I have shot several hundred each of CCI and Remington's, just got some RWS caps, will start shooting with them soon. We did see a small shortage last year of some brands, in some stores.