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Traditional Firearms => Traditional Archery => Topic started by: The Baron on May 18, 2008, 07:32:45 PM

Title: Long Bow Q's
Post by: The Baron on May 18, 2008, 07:32:45 PM

I've been doing some reading and looking on the 'net and in magazines.  I am leaning toward a longbow because I want to be very traditional in my selection, and also I just think they have more pleasing lines than a recurve, to my eye.

I have a question about longbow length and draw weight.

I'm 6'4" and my draw length will be about 30" with a 31" arrow (give or take) when anchored to the corner of my mouth.  Although I like a long bow, I don't want it TOO long, as I plan to shoot turkeys from a brush blind and the kneeling position.  Is there any rule of thumb or opinions on what bow length I should be looking for as a minimum, given my draw length?  I am a beginner, so that might be a consideration as I don't want to end up with a super challenging bow as my first.

For draw weight, I assume 50# is plenty for turkeys and deer?   I'm a pretty sturdy guy and could probably go much heavier if needed, but I don't want to handicap myself for shooting from awkward positions.  With the expectation of a 31" arrow, should I be thinking about a higher draw weight to move that heavy arrow?

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Post by: Fletcher on May 19, 2008, 09:28:33 AM

The longer the bow, the smoother the draw and faster the cast if the material is the same.

For a 31" draw a longbow of 72" should be good and is still not too long to take to the woods.

Many folk like shorter bows for "brush", but that usually means glass backed re3curves.  The shorter bows may 'stack' quickly on a long draw.

If you want to go 50# or higher I suggest a good backing on the bow to improve cast and add durability to the bow.

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Post by: Longhunter on May 20, 2008, 09:52:08 AM

I get the impression that you have a concern about bow length because of your height. When shooting a traditional bow you don't need to hold the bow vertical, in fact it's best to cant the bow to get the arrow in line under your eye. For some shots the bow can even be held horizontal.  Here's a clip from a video I did years ago demonstrating the versatility of a longbow. The bow I was shooting was 70" long. The target was a steel bear target with a 6" circle cut out in the kill zone so if you missed the kill it was goodbye arrow.    

http://www.tradgang.com/videos/ronlaclair/ronl-2.wmv (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/ronlaclair/ronl-2.wmv)

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Post by: Minnesota Mike on May 20, 2008, 11:22:56 AM

Ahhh man . . . a southpaw???  

r/
MM

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Post by: The Baron on May 20, 2008, 12:00:12 PM

Thanks Fletcher!

Very helpful clip Longhunter... that definitely cleared a few things up in my head!

I have been doing some web searching at it seems for a 30" draw the recommended minimum longbow length is about 64".   From what I read, a longer bow is more forgiving, and if I go much shorter than 64" I might have a problem with finger pinch or stacking.    And for hunting, it sounds like any bow of 45# or greater will be quite sufficient for deer/turkeys.

So, I think now I am in the market for a 64"+ longbow with a draw of 45 - 50# at 28" (which I gather will make it about 50 - 55# at my 30" draw, give or take).  I'm perusing classifieds all over now.

I've learned so much in my reading the last 3 days!  It's kinda fun to be an information hungry newbie, shopping for a new hobby.

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Post by: Longhunter on May 20, 2008, 12:29:26 PM

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I have been doing some web searching at it seems for a 30" draw the recommended minimum longbow length is about 64". From what I read, a longer bow is more forgiving, and if I go much shorter than 64" I might have a problem with finger pinch or stacking.

If you're thinking self bow (natural materials) then yes go for a longer bow to insure it doesn't break.  If you want laminated with fiberglass then you can shoot a longer bow or a short bow. You hear a lot of opinions about a longer bow being "more forgiving" and "more accurate"...I don't agree with that. I've shot both longer bows and shorter bows and I shoot one as well as the other. If you like the idea of a shorter bow, there are some short bow designs that are very stable of do not stack or give finger pinch.

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Post by: The Baron on May 20, 2008, 02:17:30 PM

From my searching, it seems laminated bows are more readilly available (especially used) and I expect that is where I will end up as a starting point.

I have been reading about the Internature Viper longbow, and it sounds like a very good bow for the price.  I found a couple of reviews on the 'net and both were very positive for this bow being a good shooter and a great value, at about $200.  With a length of 68", I have decided it might just be a good starter bow for me.