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Title: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Smokey on January 30, 2021, 05:30:21 PM
What do you think? .54 round ball. 25 of them or so. Will that fit into a 4inch x 2 inch ball bag? 

I'm either going to make one or buy one.  I could use some ideas. I'm not going wild for the ball bags I see online. It's too hard to tell if they're any good for the photo alone.
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: PetahW on January 30, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
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First, I would respectfully suggest glomming a paper bag, cut it apart, and glue yourself up a few different bags before determining the number of balls each will hold, then decide which fits yer druthers.

Secone, could you please post some pics of your endeavors...  :toast
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: BEAVERMAN on January 30, 2021, 06:22:35 PM
If you want to buy one, check out what I have listed in the trade blanket and then ask the fellas here about the quality, most of them own at least a couple, min size for 25 530 balls, 4 " tall by 2 &1/2 wide
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Two Steps on January 30, 2021, 07:39:10 PM
Beaverman said:
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If you want to buy one, check out what I have listed in the trade blanket and then ask the fellas here about the quality, most of them own at least a couple, min size for 25 530 balls, 4 " tall by 2 &1/2 wide
I have some of Beaverman’s bags and they are well made, sturdy and well worth the price! :bl th up
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: KDubs on January 30, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
perfect timing for this post.
 Ive been practicing some wet forming leather,  specifically ball bags for my .54.
 4 x 2.5   got it.
 kevin
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Smokey on January 30, 2021, 08:13:23 PM

First, I would respectfully suggest glomming a paper bag, cut it apart, and glue yourself up a few different bags before determining the number of balls each will hold

Thank you. Good advice. Also, to be clear, I'm talking about making a flat bottomed, draw string pouch that I can use to hold balls. Not a molded ball bag.
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Hank in WV on January 30, 2021, 10:12:00 PM
I've got a couple of bags from the Beav a good while ago and they still work just fine. :bl th up
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: BEAVERMAN on January 30, 2021, 10:12:42 PM
perfect timing for this post.
 Ive been practicing some wet forming leather,  specifically ball bags for my .54.
 4 x 2.5   got it.
 kevin

Minimum 2.5 i'd go 2.75 for the sewn line as the width will shrink as it's formed, and a 5/8" plug to accommodate 45 to 56 cal
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 31, 2021, 03:19:47 AM
Beaverman said:
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If you want to buy one, check out what I have listed in the trade blanket and then ask the fellas here about the quality, most of them own at least a couple, min size for 25 530 balls, 4 " tall by 2 &1/2 wide
I have some of Beaverman’s bags and they are well made, sturdy and well worth the price! :bl th up

Same here!
When it comes to anything Leather, Jim's name should be "LeatherMan"....
And that's a fact, Jack!    :laffing

Russ...
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 31, 2021, 08:20:02 AM
What do you think? .54 round ball. 25 of them or so. Will that fit into a 4inch x 2 inch ball bag? 

I'm either going to make one or buy one.  I could use some ideas. I'm not going wild for the ball bags I see online. It's too hard to tell if they're any good for the photo alone.

A 25 count round ball bag ought to serve you well. They are not hard to make - but if you don't have the material on hand to make a ball bag, it's best to just buy one. It'll be a whole lot cheaper going that route.

Now if you want to test yourself with a little leather work, by all means - make one...  :shake

NOTE: To me, a ball bag is nothing more then a leather draw string bag that feeds my "ball board" which dangles from the front carrying strap of my shooting bag... It's not a wood plugged "pear shaped" bag... I thought I should clarify this...
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Smokey on January 31, 2021, 09:24:51 AM
To me, a ball bag is nothing more then a leather draw string bag ... It's not a wood plugged "pear shaped" bag...

Yes, sir, we're talking about the same thing. I want a small pouch that sits in my possibles bag.  It can be leather, or some other stiff fabric. That way, I can reach into my bag to retrieve a ball. Load from the bag.  That's the plan.
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 31, 2021, 10:36:39 AM
To me, a ball bag is nothing more then a leather draw string bag ... It's not a wood plugged "pear shaped" bag...

Yes, sir, we're talking about the same thing. I want a small pouch that sits in my possibles bag.  It can be leather, or some other stiff fabric. That way, I can reach into my bag to retrieve a ball. Load from the bag.  That's the plan.

You could make one from pillow ticking - I've seen quite a few of them, or just any old medium to heavy duty cotton material... The material doesn't need to be water proof & canvas is a bit to stiff IMHO for use with a draw string. A lite leather works good. Hobby Lobby is a good source for material. And it don't need to be pretty - just practical for its intended use.
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Smokey on January 31, 2021, 10:49:16 AM
I'm not even certain it needs drawstrings, Joe. It's just going to sit in the bag and an open top may make it easier to use. 
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: rollingb on January 31, 2021, 10:50:27 AM
To me, a ball bag is nothing more then a leather draw string bag ... It's not a wood plugged "pear shaped" bag...

Yes, sir, we're talking about the same thing. I want a small pouch that sits in my possibles bag.  It can be leather, or some other stiff fabric. That way, I can reach into my bag to retrieve a ball. Load from the bag.  That's the plan.

If you (or anyone else) would like a bit of free 10 oz. canvas to make such a ball pouch/bag, just holler, I've got some scraps and I'll send you some.  :bl th up  :)
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 31, 2021, 12:03:47 PM
I'm not even certain it needs drawstrings, Joe. It's just going to sit in the bag and an open top may make it easier to use.

I've seen that application before - no reason at all it won't work, because it does.

Rondo (the post above me) has a good offer... Take a look.  :shake
Title: Re: Sizing a ball bag
Post by: Smokey on January 31, 2021, 02:22:46 PM

If you (or anyone else) would like a bit of free 10 oz. canvas to make such a ball pouch/bag, just holler, I've got some scraps and I'll send you some.  :bl th up  :)

Very generous of you, RollingB thanks for the offer. I'm all set for scraps of various kinds here. I'll defer to someone who needs the fabric more than I do.