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The Center of Camp => Camping Gear and Campfire Cooking => Topic started by: jbullard1 on May 11, 2009, 04:39:38 PM

Title: Scrap Yard Find
Post by: jbullard1 on May 11, 2009, 04:39:38 PM
I manage a fleet of trucks that run for a scrap metal company, while on location a few days ago I spotted this in the brass bin
I know this is not completely correct but my rondy group will approve of it
It is similar to lamps by Cash
What do you think?
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Post by: melsdad on May 11, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Looks like a nice find Jerry!
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Post by: Mitch on May 11, 2009, 05:10:41 PM
Polish it up on the flame side and be proud to use it...I've got a couple similar and really like'em....2 of them put out enough light to read by(for those of you mountaineers who can read!!)
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Post by: Three Hawks on May 11, 2009, 05:12:58 PM
That is a wonderful find.   I suspect that a little elbow grease mixed with some Brasso will have the inside shining like a policeman's britches.  The outside looks perfect.  If it was mine (hint, hint) I'd drive a tack in the back pole of my wall tent to hang it on. (Low enough to avoid a fire, or with a smoke bell over it.)  A candle lamp  like that is good to have.

Mine is an old Jas Townsed triangular tin lamp with one of the glass panels replaced with a custom cut piece of mirror.  I was shocked at what a 5"x8" piece of mirror cut and deburred cost.  Eighty cents, can you believe it?  Anyway that ol' thing has proven to be one of the most practical illumination devices I own.

Three Hawks
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Post by: jbullard1 on May 11, 2009, 05:18:19 PM
Thanks fellows

This is also the same yard I get my lead from  :lol
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Post by: Three Hawks on May 11, 2009, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: "Mitch"
Polish it up on the flame side and be proud to use it...I've got a couple similar and really like'em....2 of them put out enough light to read by(for those of you mountaineers who can read!!)

That is an interesting (and funny) remark.  I read somewhere that the mountain men had a literacy rate three or four times the national average through the Rendezvous era and that books, especially the Bible, were highly prized and traded amongst them.  

Three Hawks
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Post by: Mitch on May 11, 2009, 06:28:05 PM
3Hawks-it was meant in fun...but, I'd like to know where you found that info-I'm always looking for little details like that!!
One thing I'm noticing in Western fur trade journals and the like-no mention of "mountain men"-mostly mountaineers, mountain rovers, woods roamer, and similar, but "mountain man" I don't recollect seeing? any thoughts?
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Post by: woodman on May 11, 2009, 09:19:36 PM
The term Mountain Man is more of a modern term. Think fromaround the days of the dime novels is when it got coined. The preferred term in most journals seems to be Mountanier's.
 Woodman
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Post by: Sir Michael on May 12, 2009, 01:34:41 AM
Cool lamp. :clap
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Post by: snake eyes on May 12, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
Jerry,
        That is a great find!
snake-eyes :clap
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Post by: Ironwood on May 12, 2009, 08:16:59 AM
Wow!  Looks like you found a real Gem!
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Post by: Roaddog on May 13, 2009, 05:38:51 AM
Nice fined just watch out when you go rubbin on it. Ya never know what will pop up. :shock: Don't forget just thee wishes.
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Post by: pathfinder on May 13, 2009, 05:45:11 AM
I'm surprised at how cold hearted everyone around here has become! Send me that scrap heap piece junk and I promise to dispose of it properly,really,I promise. Jeez guy's,have a heart.
For real, great find,I'd use that anywhere!
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Post by: cb on May 13, 2009, 06:32:35 AM
Neat find -

Many of the mountaineers learned to read via the "Rocky Mountain College" during winter camp.
The earliest usage of the term "mountain man" I've found was by a woman traveling west in the early 1840's - of course I can't find the exact cite now (hate when that happens!), but it was IIRC 1842-43 and she was a missionary lady.....but the term apparently didn't come into general usage until sometime later, after Fremont's trips and those first penny dreadfuls came out about Carson, Bridger, and others.....
Mountaineer and trapper seem to be the most often used terms by the men themselves and Rudolph Kurz, who clerked at Ft. Union, used those two terms as late as 1851-2.