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Author Topic: Swivel Breech Flintlock  (Read 1656 times)

Offline tonyhd98

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Swivel Breech Flintlock
« on: March 19, 2016, 01:14:30 PM »
Hello all,

Just joined the forum looking for a critique. Barrels: .45 cal by Rice, Swivel Breech Action: by Precision Machinery, Brass Mounts: by TDC and Reeves Goering Brass.









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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2016, 01:54:18 PM »
Beeeeaaaauuuutiful rifle!  :hey-hey  :wave

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 07:30:57 PM »
Thank you rollingb!

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2016, 10:35:21 PM »
Quote from: "rollingb"
Beeeeaaaauuuutiful rifle!  :hey-hey  :wave

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2016, 12:12:09 AM »
Very nice. They'll start calling you two-shoots after this.
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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2016, 05:56:02 AM »
Now that is something ya don't see everyday.Tell us a little mor abought it Tony.
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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2016, 09:09:32 AM »
Hello Roaddog and thank you all,

Last August a friend of mine gifted me the instructional book Building a Swivel Breech by Dave Waters. Since that time I've tooled up my machine shop; Precision Machinery and have built 5 swivel breech actions and two rifles. I'm on the third rifle now but am delayed as I try to shift from the L&R Manton lock parts to the Jim Chambers Siler lock. I'm a bit fussy when it comes to making a high quality consistent rifle and I feel the Siler parts ie. frizzen, pan cock and tumbler are a better choice.

The rifle pictured (#2) is 10.1 lbs, barrels are 38" long, .45 cal by Rice, overall length is 54.5" long, 3" drop at the butt, 1 7/8" drop at the comb, 14.5" length of pull and 1/4" cast off. The sight radius is 29.5" and the sight height from the centerline of the barrel has been adjusted during building to allow for easy sighting in at 25 yards as the patched ball rises and 100 yards as the ball is descending in it's arc towards the ground. This accuracy is predicated on proper patch thickness, lube, ball diameter and powder combination.

Unlike other swivel breech builders, I do not weld or solder the barrels together. I consider this very dangerous and it seriously impacts accuracy.

My barrels are free floating and due to the brass muzzle cap design, float individualy as they expand and contract due to the differential heat from firing. During firing, one barrel is always hotter than the other. If the barrels are welded there are serious stresses in the barrel metal and can easily fracture under the pressures from firing unless properly normalized, however the barrels will still bend like a banana longitudinally impacting accuracy.

Thanks again for the input,
Tony

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2016, 06:53:44 PM »
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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2016, 10:15:41 AM »
That does show some outstanding building skills!

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2016, 10:18:06 AM »
Thank you Ron!

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2016, 10:41:04 PM »
Welcome to the TMA forum Tony!
That rifle is nothing short of pure eye candy to these old eyes.
That wood actually speaks to me, albeit those barrels is where the real meat is.
Your skills are to be complimented, keep up the good work.
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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2016, 09:04:17 AM »
Thank you RussB!

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2016, 09:03:41 AM »
That shines, that truly shines
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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 08:56:48 AM »
Beautiful rifle. So to shoot it, I'm summizing, you shoot the top barrel then spin the bottom barrel to the top, prime the pan and shoot again?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 08:30:31 AM by JO49er »

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Re: Swivel Breech Flintlock
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2016, 11:39:22 AM »
I would keep both pans primed. My preference for a swivel breech would be a .54 rifle and a .54 (28ga) smoothbore...or maybe a .62 rifle and 20ga smoothbore.

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