Author Topic: How much fabric for a shirt? (Read 2531 times)

woodman · « **Reply #15 on:** April 10, 2009, 11:48:45 AM »

Quote from: "Eric S Campbell"

My comment was really more to the people who do not research at all, and dress how they picture it to be in their heads. I have no problem with people who are out west, do good impressions, and actually wear some fabric rather than all buckskin.

That would depend on what impression you are portraying in the west and what time of year. An engage for a company that came out for the summer rendezvous would wear more cloth than say a genuine Free Trapper that had taken on an indian wife and indian ways. In the journals there are references to Antelope hide shirts,leather pantaloons and leggings. Most of these we're heavily fringed.The references to Free Trappers looking like and acting like Native Americans abound if you do a lot of reading about the west.
There is a group of modern researchers on the west that ignore these references , because they don't agree with there preconceived notions.
There was no one uniform way that the Mountain Men dressed. There was a wide mixture of clothing worn, from voyeger to southwest to mixtures.
I will have to dig it out but theres a Quote by Joe Meeks we're he talks about them dressing "Flauntingly" I have my ideas about what was meant by this, but it probably disagrees with others ideas of what was meant.
Sorry for the rant,
Woodman

Eric S Campbell · « **Reply #16 on:** April 10, 2009, 12:12:12 PM »

I understand all of that. I never once said that it was not done. But you must agree that some people take it to far and that it is WAY overdone. It's just like all the longhunters, mark baker wanna be's, and white indian/ cour de bois in the east.

To each thier own I like to say, but that does not ean I have to agree with them though.

Eric S Campbell · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2009, 12:18:58 PM »

It seems I have led this thread off track. Sorry about that and back to the shirt discussion.

tg · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2009, 10:16:45 PM »

Maybe it is a case of making accurate observations rather than being judgmental?

deadfallpaul · « **Reply #19 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:51:53 PM »

I agree tg.
I am from the east and it seems as though there are a number of people that have all the answers as to what is correct attire.
It's not "PC" unless you agree with what they wear was the ONLY choice of clothing.
They don't seem to understand that peole then, as they are now, were individuals and wore whatever they had or could round up.
It may have been something out of date or combinations of "styles".
Make do was the norm especially away from the coastal cities and with the "poor" country folk just as it is at present. '
Practicality was the norm if there was a norm.

Three Hawks · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:51:50 PM »

I'm mildly curious what all this has to do with how much cloth it takes to make a shirt.

As for trying to stay PC for the Mtn Man Rendezvous era, there is a dearth of first hand information, whereas for Colonial and Revolutionary War era there are volumes of written information as well as huge collections of actual artifacts.

There are organizations who do accurate re-enactments and require multiple prime references. As far as I know, we ain't one of 'em.

If I had any idea wanting to know how much cloth I'd need would have caused this much of a hoo-raw I'd have stayed naked. :oops:

Three Hawks

jbullard1 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:32:38 PM »

3 hawks
I would prefer you buy 4 yards of cloth(any cloth) and NOT be Nekkid

My tired eyes can only stand so much more abuse
I am also of the None PC group if it looks sort of old then wear it :lol

BEAVERMAN · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:45:52 PM »

Heck might as well get another extra yard and dress that nekid Ozzy too!

deadfallpaul · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2009, 10:00:46 PM »

Three Hawks I have seen a picture of you and believe me it's best for you not to go nekkid!!!
I would be glad to chip in with anyone else of the same opinion and get you that cloth. ;-)

Three Hawks · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:28:32 AM »

Quote from: "BEAVERMAN"

Heck might as well get another extra yard and dress that nekid Ozzy too!

Ozzy has a fur coat. I'm the one here what's tryin' to build a shirt.

Three Hawks

(Sat- 4-18-09)

The cloth arrived in this mornin's post. It is purdy as a speckeled pup. Now I have to find and contract with someone who can sew me up a shirt out of it.

Ya see, I've tried sewing. A man's gotta know his limits.

Three Hawks

Three Hawks · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2009, 06:14:58 PM »

Arrighty then,

I finally got off my fat a**, boxed up the fabric and a sample shirt that fits me, along with some Coin of the Realm, a card of Olde Fashyndde looking buttons and a spool of matching thread then sent it via dead horse express to a highly recommended seamstress.

The waiting game begins anew. When I've recieved the shirt, I'll put it on with my spiffy buckskin pants and have my foteygraf made. Then I'll struggle manfully to get it on here without breaking anything.

I'll likely wear it to the Cascade Mountain Men Spring Show in far-off exotic Monroe, WA. That ought to tone up the doin's some.

Three Hawks

Kermit · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2009, 07:42:16 PM »

Might tone it up MORE if you WAS nekkid. Sure give the flatlanders something to talk about besides all that unending yammering about guns and such.

I'll look for you there--either way.

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