The TMA is dedicated to preserving the rich and fascinating heritage of the traditional muzzleloading firearms of early America.
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News:
Join the TMA -
click here!
Home
Help
Calendar
Login
Register
Traditional Muzzleloading Association
»
Traditional Firearms
»
Flintlock Long Guns
»
Touch Hole Question
Your TMA Officers and Board of Directors
Support the TMA!
~
Traditional Muzzleloaders
~
The TMA is here for YOU!
*** JOIN in on the TMA 2024 POSTAL MATCH *** it's FREE for ALL !
For TMA related products, please check out the new
TMA Store !
The Flintlock Paper
*** Folk Firearms Collective Videos ***
« previous
next »
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
Author
Topic: Touch Hole Question (Read 3657 times)
butterchurn
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 839
Touch Hole Question
«
on:
June 23, 2008, 12:25:16 AM »
I'm working on a smoothie that I aquired that needed some minor repair. It has a stright 1/16th inch touch hole (no TH Liner) that is coned from the outside a la Danny Caywood. I have to test shoot it, but do you think it would be advisable for me to open the hole up to 5/64 or just go and install a TH Liner?
Logged
Butterchurn
Member # 249
Exp. 07/12/10
Set your course by the stars, not by the lights of every passing ship.
General Omar N. Bradley
Groundhog
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 561
(No subject)
«
Reply #1 on:
June 23, 2008, 12:42:27 AM »
Mr Caywood is a bit "touchy" about this subject. Why not jus' shoot it first n see how it does ... Danny does not believe you need a liner.
Bet yall find it do alright...
Logged
TMA Member # 273 EXP. 07/15/08
Conocheague Valley Men
Keep the Tradition Alive for Future Generations !
Remove all WARNING LABELS , survival of the fittest.
go look at my blog
http://shootingpouch.blogspot.com/
Roaddog
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 1580
TMA Member: TMA Paid Member # 247 Expires 3/15 / 2019
(No subject)
«
Reply #2 on:
June 23, 2008, 07:28:44 AM »
Yep if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Logged
Minnesota TMA State Representative
Member #247
Captchee
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 6215
(No subject)
«
Reply #3 on:
June 23, 2008, 10:03:46 AM »
as said , caywood doesn’t believe in liners . don’t even get him started on the subject.
While your vent isn’t coned from the inside , it still will work fine .
When the touch hole does get to big then its time for a liner but right now 1/16 should be fine . If you notice the ignition is slow then you can drill her out
Logged
Groundhog
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 561
(No subject)
«
Reply #4 on:
June 23, 2008, 10:24:44 AM »
7f powder in the pan does wonders ... hard to find anymore.
Powder away from the touchole ... ya want the spark ta jump in Butterchurn...
Logged
TMA Member # 273 EXP. 07/15/08
Conocheague Valley Men
Keep the Tradition Alive for Future Generations !
Remove all WARNING LABELS , survival of the fittest.
go look at my blog
http://shootingpouch.blogspot.com/
nessy357
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 122
(No subject)
«
Reply #5 on:
June 23, 2008, 12:55:05 PM »
If you decide to drill it larger, and # drillbits are accessible to you, there are 3 # drillbits between 1/16" and 5/64". IIRC the middle size is .70"
Cheers Bob.
Logged
BC Canada Provincial TMA Representative
[/color]
TMA member 326
Expires Feb 4 2011
Load fast shoot slow.
Sir Michael
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 2754
TMA: TMA Store
TMA Member: Charter Member #132
(No subject)
«
Reply #6 on:
June 23, 2008, 03:19:49 PM »
I agree with nessy. Try the next size up in the numbered bits if that doesn't do what you want then move up one form size. 5/64" is a large hole, big enough to make it self priming if you you use 3Fg.
Logged
Sir Michael
Charter Member #132
butterchurn
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 839
(No subject)
«
Reply #7 on:
June 23, 2008, 04:55:45 PM »
Thanks everyone! I'll shoot it first and ask questions later!!!!!
Logged
Butterchurn
Member # 249
Exp. 07/12/10
Set your course by the stars, not by the lights of every passing ship.
General Omar N. Bradley
Minnesota Mike
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 641
(No subject)
«
Reply #8 on:
June 23, 2008, 05:00:05 PM »
I just put in a 5/64 for my brand new trade gun. Worked fine on Sat and went off everytime.
r/
Mike
Logged
TMA number #269.
Expiration Date Oct 2010.
ken
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 31
(No subject)
«
Reply #9 on:
June 30, 2008, 09:41:26 PM »
I happen to agree with Danny. I have done this for along time and one thing I have learned this sysyems works great! I absolutely dont have ignition problems. They are dependable and fast. I know that there sre more people that believe a liner is a must. And I wouldnt try to change there opinion for any reason. The point That I am trying to make is both systems work. I would keep an open mind on both and try what you have first. If not satisfied then try something else. What you have should work fine if installed correct and I am sure that it is. I certainly hope that I have not affended anyone I sure didntmean to.
Logged
ken
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 31
(No subject)
«
Reply #10 on:
June 30, 2008, 09:50:19 PM »
Sorry I didnt realize I had already sudmitted it before I proof read it.
Logged
Captchee
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 6215
(No subject)
«
Reply #11 on:
June 30, 2008, 10:23:13 PM »
no problem ken , gotcha covered
Logged
Sir Michael
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 2754
TMA: TMA Store
TMA Member: Charter Member #132
(No subject)
«
Reply #12 on:
June 30, 2008, 10:26:10 PM »
Ken, I agree as well. Although most of my guns have liners, at least one that doesn't and I have no burning desire to bore it out and install one. :lol:
Logged
Sir Michael
Charter Member #132
butterchurn
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 839
(No subject)
«
Reply #13 on:
July 01, 2008, 11:10:09 AM »
I appreciate the info and discussion!
Logged
Butterchurn
Member # 249
Exp. 07/12/10
Set your course by the stars, not by the lights of every passing ship.
General Omar N. Bradley
oomcurt
TMA Forum Member
Posts: 753
(No subject)
«
Reply #14 on:
July 01, 2008, 06:53:28 PM »
I would say to try it out as is before making any changes. That said....my harpers ferry rifle had a 1/16 hole in the liner. I found that it "plugged" way to easy...drilled it out to 5/64 and that was the end of that problem. There is a lot of talk or concern about "pressure" being lost by doing that. Well...I don't buy into that. On one end of the barrel you have this teenie little 1/16 or 5/64 inch hole...on the other end you have one that is almost .6 of an inch, now...which end or hole offers the least resistence to all that pressure? Just my two cents....
Curt
Logged
TMA member #177
Interest: Rocky Mt'n Fur Trade
March 1 2008
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
« previous
next »
Traditional Muzzleloading Association
»
Traditional Firearms
»
Flintlock Long Guns
»
Touch Hole Question