Your TMA Officers and Board of Directors
Support the TMA! ~ Traditional Muzzleloaders ~ The TMA is here for YOU!
*** JOIN in on the TMA 2024 POSTAL MATCH *** it's FREE for ALL !

For TMA related products, please check out the new TMA Store !

The Flintlock Paper

*** Folk Firearms Collective Videos ***



Author Topic: Need Assistance!  (Read 2507 times)

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2017, 12:52:03 PM »
I'm curious to hear what they find.  Keep us posted, would you?

~WH~

Sent the lock off yesterday!  :bl th up
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7338
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2017, 02:59:51 PM »
I'm curious to hear what they find.  Keep us posted, would you?

~WH~

Sent the lock off yesterday!  :bl th up

IMHO, which is little more than just one more added opinion, you did the right thing.  :bl th up

Fortunately, on all the flintlocks I have owned over the years, I have never owned one that had a problem sparking that I couldn't pretty easily work out....other small problems such as flint position, poor quality flints, my lack of knowledge in dressing a flint, and other little things like binding, or rubbing, have popped up from time to time, but I have really been lucky in the respect of the flint sparking when it wasn't my fault.

Like WH mentioned, it will sure be interesting to hear what they have to say.

Although I've never had that problem before, we all know and realize that I could very well be just one shot away from something else going south on me.....but ya still gotta love 'em!

Uncle Russ...
It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2017, 10:44:32 PM »
Uncle Russ

The way I figured it is that if I sent to L&R and they reworked as I requested.....once it gets back with their seal of OK.....I'll know that it's either me not having something right.....or something that I have to get right! Pretty simple the way I've got it in my mind! From all I've read and looked at pertaining to where the flint should be in relation to the pan at stoppage....this Locks' stoppage was a bit far from where it should be relation-wise to the pan. If I'm wrong.....so be it! :toast
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Offline Ohio Joe

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 7660
  • TMA Founder / Charter Member# 8
  • TMA Member: Founder
  • Location: Nebraska
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2017, 11:26:32 PM »
I'm just going to throw this in real quick about my little L&R John Bailes flintlock, and a problem I had with it once. I ended up solving it myself (probably more luck then anything else),,, but what happened was that the top of my Jaw Screw was actually nicking the top of my frizzen (just barely) and causing my frizzen to open with minimal flint to metal contact and only showing a few sparks...

So after realizing I wasn't moving my flint forward after dressing my flint so many times - it finally dawned on me... :Doh!

I also noticed that when using chert flints for quite awhile my frizzin would stop shaving metal for sparks so I'd replace the chert flint with a Black English Flint and it would actually clean up the frizzen (after some usage) and I could go back to my chert flints.

Those flintlock frizzen's can be finicky...  :shake

I've no doubt L&R will get you back into the shooting game!  :bl th up

Forgot to mention,,, I think sometimes on real humid days that the Missouri chert flints draw a bit of moister into them... Just my observation. 
« Last Edit: June 21, 2017, 11:36:18 PM by Ohio Joe »
Chadron Fur Trade Days Rendezvous / "Ol' Candle Snuffer"
"Museum of the Fur Trade" Chadron, Nebraska

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2017, 11:34:24 AM »
We have LOTS of humidity right now as Tropical Storm Cindy is in the state! I'm in North Louisiana....but it's coming right on up! :Doh! ::)
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Online rollingb

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 6957
  • TMA Founder
  • TMA: Founder
  • TMA Member: TMA Charter Member#6
  • Location: Northwest KS
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2017, 11:50:09 AM »
We have LOTS of humidity right now as Tropical Storm Cindy is in the state! I'm in North Louisiana....but it's coming right on up! :Doh! ::)
Here's hoping that all you get is a little rain.  :bl th up
"An honest man is worth his weight in gold"
For only $1.25 per-month, you too can help preserve our traditional muzzleloading heritage.
TMA Founder
TMA Charter Member #6

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2017, 11:47:04 AM »
I'm curious to hear what they find.  Keep us posted, would you?

~WH~

Got the below reply back from L & R this morning:

Hi Rick

We have your lock fixed up and ready to go, we installed a new forged mainspring and a new sear that gives you a longer hammer throw. With these changes the lock works great, we did clean the frizzen face up also. The total including S/H is $48.50.

Thank You
Tim Thompson

I thanked them kindly and paid for service rendered! :hairy :toast :toast
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Offline Ohio Joe

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 7660
  • TMA Founder / Charter Member# 8
  • TMA Member: Founder
  • Location: Nebraska
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2017, 02:06:34 PM »
I'd say that was money well spent!  :bl th up
Chadron Fur Trade Days Rendezvous / "Ol' Candle Snuffer"
"Museum of the Fur Trade" Chadron, Nebraska

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2017, 08:06:55 PM »
I'd say that was money well spent!  :bl th up

Joe

Got the Lock back installed this morning after a little oil in the right places and was able to fire six shots from 100 yards before rain ran me off. Lock is smooth as a greased door knob....flint stops exactly where it's supposed to just above the pan but above the flash-hole so as not to burn the flint. I had noticed somewhat of a 'lag' in ignition previously before sending off but now....appears just as fast as my Caplock...no lag! I'm pleased! :hairy :toast

Untitled by Sharps Man, on Flickr
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Online Hank in WV

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1993
  • TMA Member: Charter Member #65
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2017, 09:49:51 PM »
with a good fast flintlock, I've never felt like I gave up anything to a caplock.
Hank in WV
TMA Charter Member #65, exp 4/30/2026
"Much of the social history of the western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. . ." Thomas Sowell

Offline Ohio Joe

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 7660
  • TMA Founder / Charter Member# 8
  • TMA Member: Founder
  • Location: Nebraska
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2017, 10:38:04 PM »
That just has to make you feel good about sending that lock in and getting it back with great results! :hairy
Chadron Fur Trade Days Rendezvous / "Ol' Candle Snuffer"
"Museum of the Fur Trade" Chadron, Nebraska

Offline Hawken

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • "A man's WORD....is his total value!"
  • TMA Member: TMA Member #802 Expiration 05-04-2021
  • Location: LA
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2017, 11:19:47 PM »
That just has to make you feel good about sending that lock in and getting it back with great results! :hairy

Absolutely....and I have conveyed my respects to the L & R guys for their quality workmanship! :bow :bl th up
"There ain't no freedom...without gunpowder!"

Online Winter Hawk

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2424
  • Location: Chauncey, OH
Re: Need Assistance!
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2017, 06:46:35 PM »
That is great, and the shooting is impressive also!

~WH~
NMLRA Life
"All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse and a good wife." - D. Boone
USN June 1962-Nov. 65, USS Philip, DD-498

Dues paid to 02 Jan. 2025