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Traditional Firearms => Caplock Long Guns => Topic started by: chuckpa on August 31, 2008, 09:12:46 PM

Title: .32 cal Crocket
Post by: chuckpa on August 31, 2008, 09:12:46 PM: I have been thinking about buying a Traditions .32 cal Crocket model rifle. I would like to hear comments from those who have had experience with this rifle.
Thanks
Chuck
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Post by: butterchurn on August 31, 2008, 09:13:51 PM: I have never shot one, but I've heard people like them.
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Post by: david32cal on August 31, 2008, 09:19:05 PM: have owned a couple of them,both were very accurate.
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Post by: wwpete52 on September 01, 2008, 01:20:07 AM: It's probably the best rifle that traditions makes actually. I like mine. It's a lot of fun!
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Post by: snake eyes on September 01, 2008, 05:38:54 AM: Chuckpa,
I have had one for 7/8 years. Find it to be very accurate.
Great squirrel shooter! I had a little bit of a cleaning problem at first but not a problem after you get a few rounds thru it.
snake-eyes
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Post by: Roaddog on September 01, 2008, 09:03:01 AM: I like the gun they look good and it's a tackdriver. They are a good gun for yung folks to start with. I have one for sale.PM me if you want.
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Post by: nobber on September 02, 2008, 01:23:43 PM: My lil crockett is a tack driver, I only wish it came in brown instead of the blue. It is a nice light weight gun for a weekend squirrel trek and looks quite smart also. My only issue with it was the sights front and rear both had very sharp edges and corners on them I musta cut myself 50 times before I finally took a file after them. I made a small shooting pouch for it out of an old work boot and it holds everything I need for about 50 rounds in it. When I go on weekend trek I sometimes take my 62 smoothbore and tie my crocket to my pack that way I can shoot whatever I want and the weight of it isn't to overbearing for the advantage of a second gun.

eric davis
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Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 02, 2008, 03:33:44 PM: Quote from: "nobber"
I only wish it came in brown instead of the blue.

Just rough it up with some steel wool and let it sit outside for a month . . . should turn all kinds of brown for you . . .

r/
MM
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Post by: wwpete52 on September 03, 2008, 03:55:52 AM: Quote from: "nobber"
My lil crockett is a tack driver, I only wish it came in brown instead of the blue. It is a nice light weight gun for a weekend squirrel trek and looks quite smart also. My only issue with it was the sights front and rear both had very sharp edges and corners on them I musta cut myself 50 times before I finally took a file after them. I made a small shooting pouch for it out of an old work boot and it holds everything I need for about 50 rounds in it. When I go on weekend trek I sometimes take my 62 smoothbore and tie my crocket to my pack that way I can shoot whatever I want and the weight of it isn't to overbearing for the advantage of a second gun.

eric davis

Eric, if you want it browned check this out:
http://www.store.laurelmountainforge.co ... cts_id=186 (http://www.store.laurelmountainforge.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=186)

Mountain Laurel barrel brown is the best and easiest browning solution available. I've used many different brands. This has them all beat.
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Post by: Fletcher on September 05, 2008, 06:23:45 PM: My shoots great and needed very little 'tuning' out of the box. The only problem is they are a bear to clean since the caliber is so small and it takes a reely small patch to clean it.

I actually use a .32 cal rag mop on a .22 cal cleaning rod to swab it out. Then I have a small brass rod with a .32 cal BP jag to clean dry it out.

I hold it in a vise with leather pads held in a towel so it does not move around.

I cast my own RB and it makes it 'cheap' to shoot.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 05, 2008, 10:21:40 PM: Thanks for that information fletcher. I just completed a deal with Roaddog and I would like some information on the loads that you fellows use in this tack driver.
Thanks
Chuck
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Post by: snake eyes on September 06, 2008, 12:47:32 AM: chuckpa,
I use a .310 PRB with 25grns 3fff goex powder.Has worked
well for me. Good luck with yours.
snake-eyes
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Post by: Roaddog on September 06, 2008, 05:37:23 AM: Chuckpa yep 25 grains of fff, # 15 pach and your set to take them squirrels right out of the trees at 30 yards.
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Post by: snake eyes on September 06, 2008, 08:26:23 AM: Quote from: "Roaddog"
Chuckpa yep 25 grains of fff, # 15 pach and your set to take them squirrels right out of the trees at 30 yards.
chuckpa,
.015 patch is what I use also. However,I have used .32cal
Buffalo Bullet Ball-ets with at least the same,if not better than
the PRB,results.Ball-ets do not require a patch.i.e. powder,
ball-et and you are loaded.Great when squirrel hunting.
snake-eyes
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Post by: Roaddog on September 06, 2008, 01:35:58 PM: I'll give that one a try.I have looked for maxie ball mold and no luck. I never thought of buffalo bullets. Thanks for the heds up.
Title: Re: .32 cal Crocket
Post by: ratgunner on September 06, 2008, 08:20:29 PM: Quote from: "chuckpa"
I have been thinking about buying a Traditions .32 cal Crocket model rifle. I would like to hear comments from those who have had experience with this rifle.
Thanks
Chuck
I have handled one at Cabela's and was impressed with it,especially for a Traditions.
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Post by: Fletcher on September 08, 2008, 10:41:09 PM: I have pushed as much as 40 gr FFF to see what it could knock down in my steel silouette plates. My best accuaracy is like the other guys, 25-30 gr. I use the .310 cast rb with .010 patch from what's left of my Ox Yoke in .30 to .40 cal

I am not sure if the 40 gr would be enough to get a deer, but it don't matter cause State Law is .40 cal or bigger anyway.

Good enough for any smaller game you bet!
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Post by: chuckpa on September 17, 2008, 05:28:55 PM: Roaddog

I received the gun today and it is all you said it was. Thank you very much. I can't wait to get to the range tomorrow to try it out.
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Post by: Roaddog on September 17, 2008, 09:14:52 PM: That is grate news. she will shoot dead on at 30 yards with 25 grains of # 3 Goex and a 310 ball ans a# .o15 patch. Now go get some squirrels.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 17, 2008, 09:41:35 PM: Squirrel season isn't open yet so I have a little time to get to know her. Man I can almost taste that squirrel pot pie now and it always tastes better when you kill the squirrels with black powder. I wish you good hunting with your new .32 squirrel rifle.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 18, 2008, 06:10:37 PM: Roaddog
I went to the range today and shot her off hand and she is a beauty. I'll try her in a match this weekend. I always did like the women I met from Spain I guess she knows that.
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Post by: Roaddog on September 19, 2008, 06:28:29 AM: Chuckpa i'm glad ol little sure shot and you are getting along so well. Good luck in the shoot and bring home a nice blankt prize. I new she found a good home when I talked to you on the phone.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 21, 2008, 05:02:21 PM: Roaddog
We had a squad ed grocery shoot today and that .32 won a box of grocery s for me. That little rifle is all that you said it was and I'm glad I had the input from the other members of the forum. they were right on when they said it was a tack driver. I love this forum you can get some great information on it.

Two brothers that are fantastic shots at the club told me that they buy a box of 00 buck shot .320 diameter and use teflon coated patches to shot out there .32"s and they get fantastic accuracy. They said that in the smaller bores you can use bore sized bullets. I have the day off tomorrow and I'm going to give the 00 buck shot a try. they told me to try it with my regular patching and lube. I will let you know how it works. I would also be interested to hear from anyone else on the forum that may have tried this.
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Post by: Roaddog on September 22, 2008, 07:34:23 AM: Chuckpa good job at the shoot. You had to do your part very well too and that's grate. I did try 00 buck with out good luck. I don't rembur what patching I used. but I do know I whent right back to .310 ball, #.15 patch, fff Goex.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 22, 2008, 09:26:33 PM: Roaddog
I should have said 0 buck which is .320. bore diameter. If anybody has tried 0 buck I would like to hear about it.
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Post by: chuckpa on September 26, 2008, 08:55:59 PM: I went to the range and used 0 buck shot .320 dia. and a .018 patch well lubed, 25 grns of ffg goex and it works the gun was still a tack driver. I will have a lot of cheap shooting.
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Post by: Spotted Bull on September 26, 2008, 09:03:14 PM: gotta get me a .32 cal then....I like cheap
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Post by: chuckpa on September 26, 2008, 09:46:54 PM: I should have said fffg goex. good luck Roaring Bull. I hope you find a good one and really enjoy it. I like the name of the place where you live. My brother lives in Denton TX
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Post by: Roaddog on September 27, 2008, 06:40:37 AM: I'm glad it wored out for you Chuckpa. I gess I didn't use a hevy enuph patch. I'll give it a try.
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Post by: Spotted Bull on September 27, 2008, 07:25:48 AM: We almost moved to Denton........that's a really nice area up there...........come see us sometime and we can burna little powder
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Post by: chuckpa on October 12, 2008, 08:22:29 PM: Roaddog
So far I have 3 wins with that rifle. 2 of them with the buck shot load. I was wondering if you used that rifle very much? I think I might buy another one of those rifles for my grandson.
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Post by: butterchurn on October 12, 2008, 11:32:11 PM: There has been one of these .32 crockets sitting at our Sportsmens warehouse for two years.
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Post by: R.M. on October 12, 2008, 11:33:30 PM: What's the price on it?
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Post by: butterchurn on October 12, 2008, 11:34:20 PM: I'm trying to remember, but it is very reasonable. I'll check it out tomorrow and see what it is.
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Post by: butterchurn on October 13, 2008, 05:20:24 PM: R.M. - I checked the price. It was a little more than I remembered, but still there. It is $339.99
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Post by: R.M. on October 13, 2008, 05:22:14 PM: Still not a bad price. Thanks for checking.
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Post by: Voyageur on October 13, 2008, 06:01:54 PM: :?
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Post by: chuckpa on October 13, 2008, 10:08:55 PM: Butterchun
Were are you in MN? I will be in Brainerd next week.the way this rifle is shooting I might consider another one.
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Post by: butterchurn on October 14, 2008, 12:23:44 AM: I'm in Andover which is in the Northwestern suburbs of Minneapolis. The Sportsmen's Warehouse is just a mile or so up the road in Coon Rapids.
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Post by: Roaddog on October 14, 2008, 06:52:37 AM: That is a good deal and a goog shooter. Go for it.
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Post by: chuckpa on October 18, 2008, 06:51:43 PM: I called the store today and they are holing the rifle for me thanks to butterchurn. I will pick it up Friday.On another forum there is a thread about fixing up the rifle. A fellow draw filed the barrel and browned it. He sanded down the stock and it had a wonderful grain so He tung oiled it. I think I might try that this winter on one of the rifles.
Thanks again fellows
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Post by: butterchurn on October 18, 2008, 07:29:50 PM: You are quite welcome. Happy to be of service!
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Post by: Roaddog on October 19, 2008, 05:08:41 AM: Chuckpa I'm sorry I missed the question abought if I shot the 32 very mutch. Yes I did and it did verry well.I took a lot of squirrels with it and would let the yeng folks use it to start out shooting B/P. I shot a lot of papper with it too. I can see why you would want a nuther one. I shot #310 round balls 20 to 25 graines of FFF Goxe and a # 15 patch.
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Post by: chuckpa on October 23, 2008, 11:49:21 AM: Well good
friends I am looking forward to picking up that rifle tomorrow at the Sportsman's Warehouse. Thanks for everything.
Chuck
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Post by: wwpete52 on October 24, 2008, 11:45:54 AM: I sure do like mine. I read somewhere that Traditions has discontinued it. I hope that is not true. I think it's the best rifle they make.
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Post by: Voyageur on October 24, 2008, 12:38:09 PM: 8)
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Post by: snake eyes on October 25, 2008, 04:04:16 AM: Voyageur,
No such thing as having to many guns. That would akin
to having too much fun,or too much money.Just can't happen :shake
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Post by: Voyageur on October 25, 2008, 09:24:17 AM: 8)
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Post by: Uncle Russ on October 25, 2008, 10:33:06 AM: Voyageur, I am very happy for you.

FWIW; Since this thread started I have been constantly wandering if the li' three-two I have is even close to the "Crocket"....the Crocket gets a lot of press.

I have an older CVA "Varminter" in .32 that has been a hoot to shoot over the past 4 or 5 years....I got this gun about five years ago from an old acquaintance, "Maxi-Ball". Some of you on the forum may remember ol' Maxi.

Anyway, I use the Lee .311, a 0.010 patch, and 15 / 18gr Goex FFFg for general plinking and just foolin around, and it is fun to say the least.

The gun was a bit beat up when I got it, so one of the first things I did was to re-do it....polished all the surfaces in the lock, re-finished the stock, and fire-lapped the barrel.

Here are a couple of pictures after I finished it......Once I got all the Brown Camo Paint/junk off the stock, there was a nice piece of wood hiding under there!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/RussB256/Refinishedstockonthreetwo-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/RussB256/Refinishedstockonthreetwo.jpg)

The one thing that got my attention right away was the fact that I had always considered the lowly "three-two" to be nothing more than the .22LR of Muzzleloading, but that myth was quickly dispelled after just a few shots.
With 30gr FFFg, it "cracks" much like a centerfire rifle, and the damage that little 47gr roundball does closely parallels that of the .22 rimfire magnum out to about 40 / 50yds.....In fact, it just might have an edge on this round.

At the range, when I first put this little guy on paper, there was a 4x4 to the left, and a little behind the target, that I hit a few times while drifting the sight back and forth...about the 5th hit on that 4x4 brought a sudden realization that this gun was not a toy gun!

This little guy can truly be a wolf in sheeps clothing!

OTH, When loaded down to about 15 / 18gr. you have never fired a sweeter little shooter.

I hope everyone gets as much enjoyment out of their little "three-two" as I have gotten out of mine....they are a totally fun gun!

Uncle Russ...
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Post by: Voyageur on October 25, 2008, 12:06:14 PM: 8)
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Post by: chuckpa on November 02, 2008, 08:52:11 PM: I picked up the rifle at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Coon Falls last Friday in MN and I noticed that Traditions made a change to the rifle they added another lock bolt to replace the wood screw on the older model. It also has a metal ramrod of some type. I will of course add a wooden ramrod.
Thanks again for all the help in finding this rifle.
They have one more left.
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Post by: butterchurn on November 02, 2008, 09:22:15 PM: I didn't know they had another one left. I thought it was the only one. Well what do you know!
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Post by: chuckpa on November 02, 2008, 09:25:44 PM: Hey Butterchun why don't you join the club and buy it.
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Post by: butterchurn on November 02, 2008, 09:26:43 PM: I've got a .32 in process from Wyosmith otherwise I would.