Traditional Muzzleloading Association

Craftsmanship => Accoutrements => Topic started by: IronDawg on March 19, 2010, 11:31:09 PM

Title: Anybody know or am I gonna hafta start measuring?
Post by: IronDawg on March 19, 2010, 11:31:09 PM

Hey would any of yall know the powder measure ratios to say a few empty centerfire casings??

What I mean is does anyone use a center fire case as a powder measure?? Like how much 3F will a empty 357 cartridge hold? a 30/30 cartidge? a 44 mag cartidge?

I figure I'm gonna have to measure anyway ..... and probably just take a cut off wheel or file and shorten them to specifics. (I got some 32 longcolt empties I HAVE to turn in to a powder measure for a 32 smoke pole!) I was just thinking there may be someone on here that could save me a few pours of cornmeal in my measurer to findy outy.

Title:
Post by: vthompson on March 20, 2010, 01:26:20 AM

That is how I do it whenever I want to know. I get my black powder and a sheet of paper to pour it over so that I can pour it back into my can when I am done measuring.

Title:
Post by: Bison Horn on March 20, 2010, 05:14:59 AM

Dixie Gun Works Catalog has list of grain wt of BP, oz of 7 1/2 shot for different cal cartridge cases. Doesn't list 44mag but has 44WCF-41gr, 44 S & W- 39gr, 44 Colt- 35gr. Lot of interesting stuff & info in the back of catalog worth the $5 it costs. I'd  copy & print  the list but don't know if it's legal. BH

Title:
Post by: IronDawg on March 20, 2010, 08:08:17 PM

no no Bison, You misunderstand me bro. I'm sorry. I'm not wanting to LOAD 30/30s or 44 cartridges with black powder. I am going to make a few powder measures for my smoke poles out of empty cartridges. I was just wondering if I am going to have to just do them like an antler measure or other hollow measure and put in a load, mark it and file/saw/grind it to that mark .... OR if someone else may have already done this and actually KNOW about how much powder certain empty cartidge cases will hold.

Title:
Post by: Bison Horn on March 20, 2010, 08:33:08 PM

These are the grain wts for using these different size casings as a BP powder measure even shows how to make a BP measure & shot dipper. Guess I didn't explain clearly. Lists casings from 22 short to 45-70. Say for instance you wanted to throw a 24 grain weight of BP for your .32 you could use a 38 Spcl casing for a powder measure. I'll just go ahead and list them. Never heard of some of those cartridges.  BH  I don't think I'd be allowed to talk about cartridges here.
   
  Empty Case          Grain wt of BP
      45-70 -----                     75
      40-65 -----                    73
      30-06 -----                     70
      25-30 -----                     43
      30-30 -----                     42
      45 Colt-----                    42
      44-40 -----                     41
      44WCF-----                    41
      38-40-----                      40
      38WCF------                   40
      44 S&W-----                   39
      44 Colt-----                    35
      45 Auto-----                   28
      35 SLR------                    25
      38 Spcl.------                   24
      32-20------                      22
      32 WCF------                   22
      25-20------                      20
      30 cal carbine------          20
      44 Bulldog------               19
      32 CF long------               15
      41 CF short-----              15
      32 Short RF-----              11
      32 Short CF-----              10
      25 RF Long-----                 8
      22 Long-----                      5
      22 Short-----                     2
      22 BB-----                         2

Title:
Post by: IronDawg on March 22, 2010, 08:41:08 AM

Absolutely AHSUM BH! Gotta bud thats gotta gazillion wierd and different cases layin around. It's what he wants to make his measures out of and like I said I wouldn't mind havin a measure for my 32 that says "32" on the bottom of it.

Title:
Post by: Trois Castors on March 22, 2010, 10:30:48 AM

Quote from: "IronDawg"

...I wouldn't mind havin a measure for my 32 that says "32" on the bottom of it.

I have .32shortR.F.-but it doesn't have any markings other
than "D" for Dominion Ammunition-You should be able to find
lots of different .32 centrefire brass that obviously will be
better labled.

Title:
Post by: Trois Castors on March 22, 2010, 10:42:26 AM

What size of load do you use in the .32?
You might try a Winchester .32spl. and trim the
case down to suit.