Post by: Three Hawks on April 01, 2009, 03:00:17 PM
You can't imagine how refreshing it felt to have a company assume I can do this repair myself. I have the feeling than most others would have me send the entire kit back, insured and registered at my own expense to replace a six dollar, repairable part, or to argue that I must have done it myself and repairs on that sort of damage would have to be charged for.
Anyway, there you have it.
Happy as a pig in poo ol'
Three Hawks
Post by: jbullard1 on April 01, 2009, 03:14:41 PM
Post by: Three Hawks on April 01, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
Quote from: "jbullard1"
Do they send you a new part or do you have to correct the one you have?
I'm gonna do it meself.
Three Hawks
Post by: BEAVERMAN on April 01, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
Post by: jbullard1 on April 01, 2009, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: "Three Hawks"
Quote from: "jbullard1"Do they send you a new part or do you have to correct the one you have?
I'm gonna do it meself.
Three Hawks
Am I misunderstanding something here
You have to repair the defective part yourself ?
Post by: Three Hawks on April 01, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
Quote from: "jbullard1"
Quote from: "Three Hawks"Quote from: "jbullard1"Do they send you a new part or do you have to correct the one you have?
I'm gonna do it meself.
Three Hawks
Am I misunderstanding something here
You have to repair the defective part yourself ?
Absolutely ! Ain't it cool? I just took the sear off the lock, heated and straightened the sear bar, it was cooled by the time I had the torch put away. No postage, no waiting, done in a quarter of an hour and back in the lock.
My kind of warranty repair It's a kit, for cryin' out loud, I expected to do some of the work. Now I know how to repair a sear. They should have charged me tuition.
Three Hawks
Post by: jbullard1 on April 01, 2009, 04:27:32 PM
Its good to learn how to fix things
I bought an L&R percussion lock from a supplier that had some issues and I corrected them to the best of my ability, I got it working so I thought until a broken sear notch prompted me to order some parts for it and my flintlock. When I ordered some spare parts from L&R a few days ago and while I was on the phone I mentioned my problem to the fellow with the caplock. I now have a hand full of spare parts for my L&R Durrs Egg locks, most at no charge
They may need a little hand fitting but I like hand fitting
Post by: Uncle Russ on April 01, 2009, 05:51:05 PM
Just think..... a company as big as Traditions, trusting a person they have never seen, or know absolutely anything about, with such a delicate matter.
You must have somehow displayed your superior knowledge and abilities in the brief email you sent them.
The next time we get together, it is absolutely essential you clue me in as to how you mange such things!
:bow
YMH & OS
Uncle Russ...
Post by: Hank in WV on April 01, 2009, 07:28:22 PM
Post by: Three Hawks on April 01, 2009, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: "Hank in WV"
Wow, I hope you don't have any plans to buy a defective nuclear device.
Well, ......................gee, ...................I hadn't.
Up til' now.
I wonder if a nuke has some part you can take off, heat up and straighten out?
Three Hawks
Post by: Captchee on April 02, 2009, 12:02:58 PM
Yes I know its an easy fix . BUT the point Is that you shouldn’t have had to fix it .
Did you get a discount on the pistol because of the bent sear arm ??? I bet no
I don’t care if it was a kit or other . Straitening bad parts is not the responsibility of the customer be it in a kit or other . The problem is traditions bad quality control on that item .
Like I said , its an easy fix BUT what if you broke it ? That happens you know . Then what , would they have said , sorry , you broke it now you have to buy a new one . Never mind you should not have had to mess with it in the first place .
I mean really did some where in their instructions it stated that you needed a tourch to heat and straiten some items ?
Bet not . that sure makes me wonder about all those folks who buy such items who dont have a shop or propain tourch avalable
Now I could understand this if they offered to replace it but you ask if there was a way to fix it yourself and thus took on the responsibility of what could happen . But to tell you to fix it yourself .
To be honest , your right , I would have boxed it up , sent it back and told them either to refund your money or properly go over all the parts and return them to you in proper condition .
I have to ask what else is wrong with this piece that they did not catch . Especially if they missed something as easily seen as a bent sear arm .
Is the breech properly seated ? How about the bolster . Is the TG also bent . Are the threads any good in the lock plate or trigger plate . was the sear put on the lock bent or was it bent in shipping ? is the lock plate also then warped ?
If they missed this sear arm , do you feel comfortable that they didn’t miss anything else ?
Again , I can understand you wanting to know how to fix it and I commend you for actually doing the job . The knowledge you have learned is a great thing .
But the point is , you did not pay the price you did for the piece so as you would have to fix things such as this .
Shape the stock yes , file brass castings and polish , yes . Learn to brown or blue , yes .
But none of that has anything to do with fixing sub quality parts such as the bent sear arm .
Myself I have sent back L&R locks because the sear did not engage correctly or the tumbler bridle was to over sized . Could I have fixed that myself ,,, yep sure , no problem . But I didn’t pay 120 bucks for a lock that was not properly built in the first place .
Again komodo’s to you for fixing it . But I think the deeper lesson here is that traditions did not want to take the time to fix a problem that originated from their poor quality control . IMO the least they could have done was say ; please send the lock back Or we can tell you how to straiten it so it works . But we will send you a new sear out in the main immediately, just in case you end up with any issues .
Post by: Gambia on April 09, 2009, 01:36:11 AM
Post by: BEAVERMAN on April 09, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: Captchee on April 09, 2009, 12:03:50 PM
Post by: BEAVERMAN on April 09, 2009, 12:14:10 PM
Post by: Minnesota Mike on April 10, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
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Post by: Three Hawks on April 12, 2009, 01:24:00 AM
The barrel appeared to be canted in the barrel channel. That took me half an hour to determin the problem and straighten it out. The inlet itself was fine, although a tad tightish on the sides of the barrel. The tang had a burr in the hook relief and the hook had a burr that impinged on it. A classic case of tolerance stacking. A little candle soot to show where things were wrong, a few strokes of the file and all is hunkey dorey.
The wedge was too big for the wedge lug, a few minutes of "spotting" the lug with candle soot and filing off the soot marks and the wedge now slides into place with just enough resistance to stay put. (I may slot the wedge and fit a retaining pin so I never have to worry abut losing it. That's for later.) The brass screws for the wedge escutcheons have found homes in the junque box,replaced by oval head steel screws I fire blued. The next thing is to turn and thread tang and lock bolts with "better" heads, the ones in the kit will work, but I just don't like 'em. I'f getting itchy to begin load development so I don't think this pistol will get a poured nose cap. A few more "fits" and the final sanding, staining, oiling and polishing and it will be "done".
Actually, I got a very good price from MidwayUSA, $207.00 shipped.
Three Hawks
Post by: rollingb on April 12, 2009, 12:25:44 PM
The one's I've sighted in (after installing different sights), were amazingly accurate (IMHO) off the bench, and fully capable of shooting 3"- 4" groups at 50 yards.
Post by: Hank in WV on April 12, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
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