Post by: Le Loup on January 26, 2011, 01:01:30 AM
I carry the same gear regardless of the mode of travel, though these days I don't have horses anymore, so it is either on foot or by boat.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5117/historicaltrekkingboat.jpg)
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2507/historicaltrekking10060.jpg)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3342/knapsack1.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eirueIdBiMc
What's In The Bag on video.
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2278/bpwallet2.jpg)
This is my gunpowder wallet or bag. For extra long treks I will carry extra gunpowder in the bag. When it is empty of gunpowder, I carry spare (plant) tinder in this bag.
Documentation: "takes readily from the spark of a steel: but is much improved by being kept dry in a bag that has contained gunpowder" (57).
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4366/kettlebookcover.jpg)
My brass trade kettle. If I remember correctly, it is about 7" wide by 4 & a half inches deep. It does not really take up much room in my small knapsack, because I fit my food bags inside of it.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9607/bookpicsawlcandle004.jpg)
If you are using a tin lined kettle, then I advise using a wooden spoon. Anything else is likely to damage the tin lining.
Post by: Roaddog on January 26, 2011, 06:49:26 AM
Post by: Puffer on January 26, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Any "safety concerns ??
Puffer.
Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on January 26, 2011, 03:37:28 PM
Post by: cb on January 26, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&clie ... xsufj3grxk (http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AMMFT%2520Search%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fintl%2Fen%2Fimages%2Flogos%2Fcustom_search_logo_sm.gif%3BLH%3A30%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23551a8b%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3B&adkw=AELymgXkI2ZmiEhXu8NjcLgttkzi2gRdaGaSzNdJJzGPiwwfCycU8d1r0Q6wMx7yEniTwu623B_ScxPIRhJRiRu-aWiu-BHW8wjX_sfqrJrt0ZZiZejm8QDzL71DK7KwdU1rUzWqtwJfE2yob1gNUaT292hLwWJjpg&boostcse=0&q=%22powder+bags%22&btnG=Search&cx=001430202502149324205%3Aixsufj3grxk)
Post by: Le Loup on January 26, 2011, 08:37:14 PM
This incident did happen during the F & I war period.
Researching this is like trying to find many common items. When did you last read about how to use a box of matches?!
That is also an 18th century quote under the gunpowder bag.
"takes readily from the spark of a steel: but is much improved by being kept dry in a bag that has contained gunpowder"
.”Samuel Hearne, Northern Canada, 1772
This is of course refering to a plant tinder being kept dry in a gunpowder bag.
John Smith became president of the Jamestown colony in 1608 but returned to England in October 1609 for medical treatment after he was injured by a fire in his gunpowder bag. In 1614 he sailed to the area he named New England and mapped the coast from Penobscot Bay to Cape Cod. The following year he was captured by pirates and held for three months until he escaped and headed back to England, never seeing North America again. He died in England in 1631 at age 52.
As I understand the above, he had this bag suspended from his belt against his hip.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0206/dispatch1.html
Gunpowder was contained in bags for use in ships cannon, so one has to be careful to avoid getting these confused with other gunpowder bags. Of course these may well have been used and carried by individuals, but the info must be found in that context which as yet I have not found.
Supplies for 24 Abenakis and Iroquois who have joined our party:
24 pounds of gunpowder in one bag of half an ell
Supplies for the six militia men:
6 pounds of gunpowder in bags of one eighth of an ell
1756-1760 journal of Louis Antoine de Bougainville
France, Archives de Colonies series C11A, volume 117, folios 191v to 194, National Archives of Canada, microfilm f-118.
Post by: sse on January 26, 2011, 08:41:55 PM
Post by: Le Loup on January 26, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: "cb"
While not 18th Century powder bags, bags of powder, and powder sacks, show up on several of the RMFT trade lists - here's links to two of them....
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&clie ... xsufj3grxk (http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AMMFT%2520Search%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fintl%2Fen%2Fimages%2Flogos%2Fcustom_search_logo_sm.gif%3BLH%3A30%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23551a8b%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3B&adkw=AELymgXkI2ZmiEhXu8NjcLgttkzi2gRdaGaSzNdJJzGPiwwfCycU8d1r0Q6wMx7yEniTwu623B_ScxPIRhJRiRu-aWiu-BHW8wjX_sfqrJrt0ZZiZejm8QDzL71DK7KwdU1rUzWqtwJfE2yob1gNUaT292hLwWJjpg&boostcse=0&q=%22powder+bags%22&btnG=Search&cx=001430202502149324205%3Aixsufj3grxk)
I really appreciate you passing this on CB, Thank you.
Post by: Le Loup on January 26, 2011, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: "sse"
Great looking stuff and a great discussion thread. Your presence has already improved our group...
Thank you for saying so. There are obviously some good people here & I still have a lot to learn.
Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on January 26, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
My wife and I and children spent some 15+ years in different attempts to totally break freeof the grid and social umbilical cord . If it didn"t do anything else , it taught them how to survive without depending on goverrement sources .
If you get time ?go to the photo gallery and look munder kemp in lifestyles and there are a few photos there that you may relate to .
I"m really impressewd with the photos vidios and information Thanks
Post by: Le Loup on January 27, 2011, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: "Gordon H.Kemp"
I would have to agree with SSE , we havn"t had this much activity on the site in some time .
My wife and I and children spent some 15+ years in different attempts to totally break freeof the grid and social umbilical cord . If it didn"t do anything else , it taught them how to survive without depending on goverrement sources .
If you get time ?go to the photo gallery and look munder kemp in lifestyles and there are a few photos there that you may relate to .
I"m really impressewd with the photos vidios and information Thanks :hairy
Thank you, will do.
Post by: vthompson on January 27, 2011, 12:11:13 AM
Post by: Le Loup on May 31, 2013, 11:43:55 PM
Post by: Le Loup on May 31, 2013, 11:53:42 PM
Post by: Le Loup on May 31, 2013, 11:58:44 PM
I always carry three knives. Hunting knife, legging knife, & clasp knife.
Post by: Riley/MN on June 01, 2013, 04:45:52 PM
Post by: Le Loup on June 01, 2013, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: Riley/MN
LeLoup- long time no see.... not familiar with your term legging knife. Care to explain?
French woodsrunners are credited with carrying three knives in the 18th century, but I have no doubt that this was so with many woodsmen. The French carried a neck knife, a hunting knife, & a legging knife. Whether this legging knife was secured to a garter or held inside the legging I can not say. I carry mine inside the top of my legging.
Regards, Keith.
Post by: Riley/MN on June 03, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
Post by: Le Loup on July 16, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
Keith.
I made a new wood ram rod with an antler tip to replace the original shorter iron ramrod.
Post by: mattdanison on September 25, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
Post by: Le Loup on September 25, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
Quote from: "Puffer"
??? You mention your "powder bag" & using it to carry "extra" powder on long treks. Interesting, this is a new concept to meNo safety concerns. My gunpowder bags are of leather, & the tops are folded & tied. Bags are lighter than powder horns & easier to carry in my pack.
Any "safety concerns ??
Puffer.
Regards, Keith.
Post by: shootrj2003 on February 26, 2021, 08:15:38 PM