Post by: FlintSteel on April 13, 2011, 10:50:49 AM
Post by: ridjrunr on April 13, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
Post by: pathfinder on April 15, 2011, 07:49:17 PM
I use the tool that Dave Rase makes, takes @ 1/2 hour and it works AWSOME!
Post by: david32cal on April 15, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
Post by: Capt. Jas. on April 16, 2011, 09:05:12 AM
Post by: david32cal on April 16, 2011, 10:29:19 AM
Post by: FlintSteel on April 16, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: "Capt. Jas."
R U talking about coning the bore or just crowning the muzzle?I'm talkin about coning the bore
Post by: FlintSteel on April 16, 2011, 11:00:06 AM
Looking at your pictures, it seems that something else is going on around the grooves, is that something you did, or is it just the photo?
Post by: david32cal on April 16, 2011, 11:33:49 AM
Post by: Captchee on April 17, 2011, 10:00:03 AM
but if it were me I would now come back and re crown your muzzle
Post by: FlintSteel on April 17, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: "Captchee"
im not big on coning . so i wont get into that .
but if it were me I would now come back and re crown your muzzle
Capt. I'd appreciate your opinion on this, Like I said I don't want to ruin the dang thing. Once it's done it's done for good.
Post by: Captchee on April 17, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: "Captchee"
im not big on coning . so i wont get into that .
but if it were me I would now come back and re crown your muzzle
this was in refrance to davids photos
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Capt. I'd appreciate your opinion on this, Like I said I don't want to ruin the dang thing. Once it's done it's done for good.
Well , coning has it seems become somewhat of a common thing in the last 10-15 years. If done right , you shouldn’t have any issues . Think of it as shooting a shorter barrel . In reality that’s what one is doing. Basicly your making the last 1-2 inchs a permanently attached false muzzle .
See the most important part of a bore , is the muzzle . Its important that the pressure be released evenly as the projectile leaves the muzzle. As such the lands and groves have to be consistent in their depth all the way around . I cant tell you the number of rifles and pistols I have worked on where folks are having accuracy issues . A quick look at the muzzle often tells the tail .
A good and proper crown IMO is all a person really needs .
Myself , none of my rifles have coned barrels . Just never seen the need to fix what isn’t broke .
If what your wanting is ease of loading , go to a smaller ball and thicker patch . Once you find the proper combo and load , it will load with your thumb and it will be as accurate as coning at hunting distances .
Some years ago I was part of a discussion on coning . Don Getz was also part of that . One of the fellas ask Don about his opinion on coning and he basically said , he wouldn’t do it and will not do it on any of his rifles or for customers who order barrels ..
He said that at one time they did sell coning burrs to folks to do it themselves if they wish or he would recommend someone to send the barrel to IF they felt they must have a coned barrel .
But Getz would not do the coning .
Post by: FlintSteel on April 17, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
Post by: Loyalist Dave on April 19, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
The other method is to only file down the lands of the rifled barrel, often done by hand, which makes it easier to load as well, but the grooves remain untouched. This gives me the willies for IF you aren't symetric, you should expect a screwed up bore, and I can't see how folks can "eyeball" it accurate enough.
I am too chicken to try either method on my present hunting rifle, as she shoots better off the bench than I can in the field, so I have no reason to mess with her. Though, some folks swear by one method, others by the second method. I don't know that I'd do it on a Rice barrel, which are known for being pretty dang accurate right out of the shop..., I mean if it ain't the olympics, why bother?
How about reducing the size of your bullet by .005 - .010, and trying a thicker patch?
LD
Post by: Swamp on April 19, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
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