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Craftsmanship => Hawks and Knives => Topic started by: prairie dog on December 02, 2011, 08:52:56 AM

Title: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 02, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
I purchased David Boye's book Step-by-Step Knifemaking about 1980 and told myself "one day I'm going to start making my own knifes."

We all know that any journey begins with the first step.  I decided to start with baby steps so I bought some blades to make handles for.  I figure I will concentrate on handles until I get that down, then try adding bolsters and finger guards before I  attempt to make my own blades.

These are the Green River blades I chose.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2630.jpg)

Here is my first attempt.  I chose walnut for the slabs.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2633.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2634.jpg)

I also picked up these Old Hickory knives.  I think I may be able to re-work them a bit and make them look a little more PC for my buck skinning camp.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2627.jpg)
My eldest son is starting to learn blacksmithing and forging.  I told him to forge some blades for me to finish out.  He is as excited as I am to work together and produce some hand forged tools and knives.  This should be fun!
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Gordon H.Kemp on December 02, 2011, 10:16:47 AM
Sounds and looks like you and your son will do well. I,ve reworked a few "old hickory" blades and they have some good steel. Keep the photos comming !
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Bigsmoke on December 02, 2011, 10:20:04 AM
I have always been a big fan of the RGR knives.  IMO, one of the best knife series ever offered.  Years ago, as a RDV trader, I used to sell a bushel basket full of them.
Now, if you were to take all the RGR knives out of my kitchen, there wouldn't be much left.
I do like your treatment of the paring knife.  The walnut scales look good.  What did you do with the Pacific Pattern Knife?  Those make a pretty good patch knife.
John
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: lonehunter on December 02, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Nice job for your first.
Be careful, it is very habit forming! :rt th
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 02, 2011, 06:05:00 PM
I haven't done the Pacific paring knife yet, thinking maple on it.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Roaddog on December 03, 2011, 06:02:05 AM
You sure are on the rite road, I can see your taking your time and doing a good job.Keep up the good work. :rt th
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 07, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
Finished my patch knife tonight.



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2641.jpg)
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: ridjrunr on December 07, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
very nice ! what stain and finish did you use?
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 07, 2011, 07:43:19 AM
LMF maple stain and Formby's Tung oil.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Swamp on December 07, 2011, 07:55:42 AM
Beautiful PD!!!!!!  :rt th
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Post by: sse on December 07, 2011, 09:20:01 AM
That curly maple looks pretty good...
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Riley/MN on December 07, 2011, 11:59:16 AM
:hairy

Nice job p.d.!
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Uncle Russ on December 09, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
FWIW: I made that same Pacific RGR knife many years ago.
It started out life as a Patch Knife and it worked just fine in that role, but it somehow ended up on my work bench and, for the last several years, my bench is totally naked without that little knife.

That is, without a doubt, my go to blade.
It's uses are unlimited, and it has a size that is just plain hard to beat.
Hardly anybody stops by the shop without asking about that little knife. I have no idea what the composition of the metal is, but it seems to stay sharp as long, maybe even longer, than any knife I've ever had and I cut some pretty bad stuff with it, sometimes....for one thing, I'm terrible about stripping wire with a knife,  especially when I know that knife is sharp.

Good job, PD
And, a good thought about saving those Old Hickory knives. They've been around awhile, and they are just as good today as they were years ago.

Uncle Russ...
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: rickevans on December 11, 2011, 07:22:00 PM
That is a nice knife there.  You can go ahead and boast on it.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Bigsmoke on December 11, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
I like it.
Jobs well done and time well spent.
John
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on January 10, 2012, 06:53:38 AM
I used my new patch knife Sunday and I like it a lot better than the straight razor I was using for cutting patches flush with the muzzle.  

I have two more of those Pacific blades and some scraps of wood, got to get busy today and put those together.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on January 25, 2012, 11:29:27 AM
Here's one I finished last night.  I put LMF walnut stain on this one.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2683-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Roaddog on January 26, 2012, 02:58:32 AM
Very nicely done.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on February 02, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
Finished the third patch knife (top)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/Rendezvous/DSCF2686.jpg)
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: sse on February 02, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
Very good...should fetch a pretty penny off the blanket.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on February 05, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
I learned some things while doing those.  Now I think I will see what I can do with these Old Hickory blades.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/DSCF2629-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 05, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
I thought to revisit this thread and show how I am progressing in my knife building.

This is my latest Old Hickory rebuild.  Maple slabs, brass pins, and a poured pewter bolster.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/0012.jpg)

I just finished a Mountain Man butcher knife.  Green River blade, plain maple slabs, brass pins and of course, a tacky sheath.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/0082.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/006.jpg)

I am feeling comfortable and competent with handle, finish, and pewter work so I have started to make some blades.  A visit to the scrap yard produced some old circular saw mill blades.  Here's a blank I cut out with a touch and annealed in the forage.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/012.jpg)

This is from the same material.  I've just begun to grind and shape the knife.  I am attempting to copy an English trade knife pattern.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/Sells/knives/f224ad21-e7a0-4c8a-aadf-76c3c104518a.jpg)

When I get it ground down to shape I will harden and temper it.  If that works out well I am fairly sure I can finish it out nicely.

Please speak up if you see something I might be missing or could do to improve.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Uncle Russ on December 05, 2013, 04:07:58 PM
PD, Looking good!
Were you able to 'buff' that high shine on the blade?

The last time I tried buffing a shine on I used red ruge, the RPM on the buffer must have been too high  because the blade looked burnt in places to me.

Would you elaborate just a bit on that part?

 :hairy

Uncle Russ...
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: prairie dog on December 05, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
I had to grind down the tool marks with a very fine grit belt and some hand work before getting after it with the cloth buffing wheel and some polish applied.  If your blade has any scratches, file marks, or fine grind stone markings, the polish gets into those and won't buff out.  That might be what made your blade look burnished or burned.  The steel should be polished with successively finer grit paper until it is smooth before using polish and the buffing wheel.

My grinder has variable speed, I run it slow to load the cloth wheel with polish but run high to polish the blade.  Putting a knife blade to a high speed cloth wheel scares the bejesas out of me.  I wear heavy leather gloves and I intentionally took the edge off the knife before buffing it.  If that cloth wheel "grabs" an edge, the knife get away from you in a hurry.   I sharpened the blade with my Arkansas stones and smooth butchers steel after I finished it.  It's shaving sharp now.
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: sse on December 09, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
You're pretty good at this stuff... :bl th up
Title: Re: Everyone has to start somewhere.
Post by: Spotted Bull on December 09, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
Great looking knives there PD!!