Post by: KHickam on March 07, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Basically they said the pattern of the gun would not be a problem (as it is very similiar to their Late Lancaster type or Leman)- nor would the furniture be a problem. Except the patch box - this is where it becomes a problem and I am a little perturbed by the reply I got from the guy at TVM. I am paraphrasing here "I don't have that type of patch box but I can send you a patch box kit and you can cut it out yourself." And I am assuming inlet the thing too. :evil: What the? If I could cut out and inlet a patch box myself why in the world would I be calling a gun builder?
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 07, 2012, 11:32:48 PM
When JP Riflestocks was in business, they made a pretty sweet JJ Henry rifle. I had one for a few years up in CdA as a matter of fact. They sold the business but the fellow who bought it never got off the dime and continued with anything. Too bad.
Not sure what to say about the response you got from TVM. That don't sound like them. Hmmmmm...
John
Post by: Adam Wetherington on March 08, 2012, 06:48:57 AM
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 07:33:04 AM
Figured it would cost a little more than their standard issue - because I specified a different lock, wanted checkering at the wrist, and a different patch box. They advertise "custom carving and engraving" so why would cutting out and in letting a custom patch box be so difficult they would not take it on?
Answers only TVM can give of course. Just taken aback by that. I have found a couple guns online already made but I wanted a left handed lock.
Not the first bad experience I had with TVM (course the first was under the flag of Jack Garner) First one was, when in 1989 I ordered a "Grand Rifle" because it cost $1000 and they were only gonna make 1000 rifles. Which was a huge chunk of change for a SrA in the USAF then - and they spelled my name wrong on the gun. I see the "new TVM" offers that gun too.
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 08, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
What did they write, Kickman instead of Kickam? if I remember right. Did they ever do anything to right that wrong? I don't recall hearing that they did.
"I see the "new TVM" offers that gun too."
Probably haven't sold 1,000 of them yet. Slow way to make a million $$$.
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
The engraved K Hickman instead of K Hickam and no they never did make it right.
Post by: Hanshi on March 08, 2012, 12:57:02 PM
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Post by: mario on March 08, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
From the little bit of info you posted, It's possible tyhat the extra time used in doing your special PB could be used more profitably in making 2 of their standard PBs.
Also, TVM is a SEMI-custom shop. They fill the void between an off-the-rack gun and a true custom builder (like Mike Brooks or Clay Smith, for example). From what you say, they aren't building you a rifle, they are modifying one they already make.
My suggestion is to go to the JJ Henry guys or find a true custom builder that specializes in 19th century guns.
Mario
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 05:32:26 PM
Post by: mario on March 08, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Mario
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 06:00:24 PM
Post by: mario on March 08, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: "KHickam"
Or I can just try to knock elk down with my 50 Virginia.
It's been done. Look at Lewis & Clarks' guys.Maybe not ideal, but probably doable.
Or have it freshed out to .54...
Mario
Post by: KHickam on March 08, 2012, 06:41:47 PM
Post by: trg on March 09, 2012, 09:56:04 AM
Not TVM!....I suspect it is you who misspells your name
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 09, 2012, 10:38:48 AM
Yes, it is so. I saw the gun in question, lo these many years ago.
I guess they did not want to repair the mistake, because it would have cost them a barrel. And 20 some years later, we are still sitting around discussing their "P" poor customer service. Man, that's a plant that bears bitter fruit.
Keith, I forget, whatever happened to that Grand Rifle? Seems I recall Jay had it for a while afterwards or am I wrong on that.
John
Post by: Riley/MN on March 09, 2012, 10:42:48 AM
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/ ... urtek.html (http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2010/11/brent-gurtek.html)
Brent is a TMA member as well. Let me know if you need his contact info.
Post by: Hanshi on March 09, 2012, 12:38:38 PM
Post by: KHickam on March 09, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
trg,
Yes, it is so. I saw the gun in question, lo these many years ago.
I guess they did not want to repair the mistake, because it would have cost them a barrel. And 20 some years later, we are still sitting around discussing their "P" poor customer service. Man, that's a plant that bears bitter fruit.
Keith, I forget, whatever happened to that Grand Rifle? Seems I recall Jay had it for a while afterwards or am I wrong on that.
John
Yes, Jay got that gun - and he had it up until close to his death - I saw it hanging in his "gun vault" a few weeks/months before he died - so somewhere out there is a left handed silver mounted Lancaster Style 54 caliber, Grand Rifle with the engraved name K Hickman on it.
Post by: Caddo on March 14, 2012, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: "trg"
" and they spelled my name wrong on the gun."
Not TVM!....I suspect it is you who misspells your name :laffing
Post by: gunmaker on November 01, 2012, 07:25:50 PM
Post by: KHickam on November 30, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Post by: KHickam on July 16, 2015, 06:23:56 PM
Here is my JJ Henry built by JP Gunstocks - it is an English pattern type and I won in on an on line auction - one of the most accurate rifles I have owned in flinlock. Perhaps, still in negoations I may make it to NM yet and kill some elk. I made an arrangement with a client of mine to shoot (high fence hunt) a red deer hind (doe/cow) and will use my JJ Henry I think.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/KIMG0144.jpg)
Post by: hawkthrower on July 17, 2015, 01:17:19 AM
