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Craftsmanship => Accoutrements => Topic started by: Cannonball on January 11, 2013, 10:51:12 AM

Title: Horn Question
Post by: Cannonball on January 11, 2013, 10:51:12 AM

I'm thinking about making my own horn and want to know two things:
1) besides the brad nails how are the plugs sealed to the horn?
2) what is used to seal the wood? I can't imagine that you'd use an oil since this will be what holds your powder in???

Thanks,
Cannonball

Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: Bigsmoke on January 11, 2013, 11:32:28 AM

Quote from: "Cannonball"

I'm thinking about making my own horn and want to know two things:

Good for you.  It's a fun thing to do and it can give you some feeling of accomplishment.

Quote from: "Cannonball"

1) besides the brad nails how are the plugs sealed to the horn?

I heat the base of the horn with a heat gun (you can also use hot oil).  You want the horn to be about 325 degrees so it will become somewhat soft.  If you are going to use a lathe turned baseplug, then the best thing to do is to use a shaping cone to make the base totally round.  Push the horn onto the cone until the horn is contacting the cone completely all the way around.  Then turn the baseplug so that it is just a little bit oversize.  Reheat the horn and tap the plug into place.  If you are a bit leary about the seal this has given you, a small bit of beeswax around the inner lip of the horn before putting the plug in will further help to seal it.

Quote from: "Cannonball"

2) what is used to seal the wood? I can't imagine that you'd use an oil since this will be what holds your powder in???

After I stain the baseplug, I apply a coat of linseed oil to the plug.

A couple of other thoughts for you.  In real estate the 3 key words are location, location, location.  In horn making the 3 key words are selection, selection, selection.  You cannot make a handsome powder horn out of an ugly cow horn.  Avoid excessive curves, avoid thick, heavy horns, avoid horns that have obvious flaws.  If you are going to make a horn with a lathe turned baseplug, get a horn that is naturally close to round.  Don't get a horn that has a drastic curve in the nose, nor one that is solid a long way back.  That just makes drilling the spout a more difficult matter than it needs to be.
A blatant bit of self promotion here, check out our website for your horn.  http://www.powderhornsandmore.com (http://www.powderhornsandmore.com)  It will give you a good idea of different horns available.
John

Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: pathfinder on January 11, 2013, 03:36:47 PM

You will not go wrong with John's stuff! My horn guy,Matt Blosser uses John's horn's and they are TOP NOTCH!
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Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: shootrj2003 on January 11, 2013, 06:15:36 PM

You may use beeswax to seal it ,you may also use epoxy unless you are really into HC,I go as HC as possible but prefer the sealing qualities of epoxy,shoot me,but if you use a horn I made your powder will stay dry.
I better clarify,not that beeswax doesn't work my first horn was waxed and I still use it for hunting but I just have faith in epoxy.

Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: Buzzard on January 11, 2013, 06:48:38 PM

I seal the butts with beeswax and use toothpicks for nails. That'd be for F&I era horns!

Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: HORNER75 on January 14, 2013, 01:00:22 AM

Ditto's to what John said! __ He has made literally thousands of horns for individuals and companies for many years, so he should know!

Rick

Title: Re: Horn Question
Post by: RobD on May 25, 2013, 06:46:46 AM

my horns are super simpletons and i don't heat and round the butt ends.  i make a tapered cap plug then glue on the cap.  

here's a pictorial of my current horn build (http://http)

here's a small priming horn i built ...

(http://i.imgur.com/71DLrCU.jpg)