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Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: greggholmes on June 19, 2013, 06:00:05 AM

Title: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on June 19, 2013, 06:00:05 AM
got home tonight and leaning on the table was the shipping tube i sent, a rusty t/c hawkens 50 in, to Mr Hoyte.
 Figuring since it hadn't been that long since i sent it out he took one look at it and sent it back with a note saying it was junk.

So i cut the end of the tube open and the first thing i see is a brand new shiny flintlock breech plug i asked him to install
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BmiyQERn0l8/UcF8cBZYMJI/AAAAAAAAC_8/KRtcXx8jCNQ/s512/20130619_023644.jpg)

so now i have a 54 smoothy drop in flint barrel. It cost me less then $150 im guessing with shipping plus the breech plug..

I keep seeing people saying just buy one, but try to find one. the ones i had found where going for over 300.

so if you have a old tc 50 and want a smoothbore send it to Mr Hoyte before we loose such a wonderful resource. i hope he has some one he is teaching the craft to.

I take a peek down the barrel and low and behold Smooooth!!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ka7MatvXCTs/UcF8ULnqOhI/AAAAAAAAC_s/d1C6yJeIXjw/s512/20130619_023710.jpg)

This baby was r-u-s-t-y
this is the breech plug he pulled off.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1L39N_1rgJ8/UcF__cGQQTI/AAAAAAAADAM/9v9rk_Mh4T0/s512/20130619_025438.jpg)

all i have to do is drill the vent hole and brown..
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Bigsmoke on June 19, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Looking good there, Greg.  Looking forward to a range report on it.
Wondering just a little why you went with 28 gauge instead of 20?  Thinking loading components would be much more plentiful for the 20.  Also, it seems that the lighter barrel would swing just a little bit better as well.
I know, it's already a done deal, just thinking is all.
John
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Hanshi on June 19, 2013, 03:08:07 PM
A Jekyll and Hyde difference, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on June 19, 2013, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
Looking good there, Greg.  Looking forward to a range report on it.
Wondering just a little why you went with 28 gauge instead of 20?  Thinking loading components would be much more plentiful for the 20.  Also, it seems that the lighter barrel would swing just a little bit better as well.
I know, it's already a done deal, just thinking is all.
John


 i wanted as much material left as possible,  a 15/16s doesnt leave much room for error.
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Bigsmoke on June 19, 2013, 05:55:00 PM
Silly me.  Of course, that is a 15/16" barrel.  For some reason I was thinking it a 1".  One time I put a .62 rifle barrel on a .54 Renegade and it worked out pretty good.
Of course, look at the thickness on a shotgun barrel.  And look at the thickness on the old 8 and 4 bore double rifles.  Not much there.
John
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greyhunter on June 19, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Nice deal, enjoy!
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Roaddog on June 20, 2013, 06:14:30 AM
That should make ya a darn good smoothy for sure. Just drop it in and let the lead fly and the smoke role. :rt th
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on June 27, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
I ordered some RB and flints from October country on Saturday online, hoping to shoot it this sunday. but lo and behold my order still hasn't shipped. so i guess i won't be shooting it this weekend.. I should have just done a Cabelas ship to store.
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on June 28, 2013, 08:10:17 PM
STILL!!!!
 Order Date: 22nd Jun 2013
Recipient: gregg holmes

    This order is marked as [size=150]Awaiting Shipment[/size]
    Your Order Contains the Following Items:

            1 x OC Flint Leather
            5 x Flints English
            (Size: 59-59618 3/4 English Flint)
            1 x OC Cast Round Balls .45 to 8 Bore
            (Size: .530, .54 cal, 224gr (100))
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Bigsmoke on June 28, 2013, 08:58:08 PM
Greg,
Why don't you give OC a call to find out what is going on.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease, don't you know.
I would think they would keep the .530 rb's on hand.  Maybe they ran out and haven't run any more yet?  Maybe you could go with .535's if that is the problem.
I just received a batch of leather straps from them, so they are shipping this week.
Other than that, not sure what to tell you.
John
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on June 29, 2013, 10:45:52 PM
Stuff came today, now I have to break down and drill the flash hole
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: RobD on July 29, 2013, 07:51:09 AM
that sounds and looks great, and i'm jonsing for a smooth bore.

wondering if a .50 lyman trade flinter can be converted to a .54 smoothie ... ?

contact info for "mr hoyte"?
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: Riley/MN on July 29, 2013, 10:50:13 AM
Quote from: "rfd"
wondering if a .50 lyman trade flinter can be converted to a .54 smoothie ... ?

get you a looong drill bit.....
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: RobD on July 29, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: "Riley/MN"
Quote from: "rfd"
wondering if a .50 lyman trade flinter can be converted to a .54 smoothie ... ?

get you a looong drill bit.....

no no no - not me!  you crazy man!   :laffing
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: greggholmes on July 29, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
that sounds and looks great, and i'm jonsing for a smooth bore.

wondering if a .50 lyman trade flinter can be converted to a .54 smoothie ... ?

contact info for "mr hoyte"?

Robert A. Hoyt
700 Fairfield Station Road
Fairfield PA. 17320
Phone# 717-642-6696 
Title: Re: 54 smoothy
Post by: RobD on July 29, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
thank you sir!