Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Craftsmanship => Accoutrements => Topic started by: W. Welshman on December 24, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
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Looking for a good moc pattern. I have all this leather, sewing machine, and cold feet. Need something a little higher just above the ankle by three inches. Trying to keep it from rolling.Please need to warm these old feet,I got snow
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i probably got a pattern, from full above the calf Apache to the lower above the ankle Navaho or Black foot .
But it also depends on what your looking for .
You want a pucker toe, side seam , center seam ??????
with many of the higher mocs , the upper flaps are not fringed and are left wider so that they can be simply foulded up over the ankle and wraped with a lace for use in the winter . in other words the only thing that really changes in the basic pattern is the width of the flaps around the top . they also often taper out alot more so that they can be over lapped
other times as in the case with the later Black foot boots , the uppers are a sepreat piece thats sewn on
try this link , it may help you decide as well as help you in a enternet search
http://www.nativetech.org/clothing/moccasin/mocmap.html
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Captchee, I'm thinking side sean, or like this without the sole.
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well without a sole that would be a pucker toe . you just cant see the pucker from the bead work .
note that the upper is a seprate piece just like i sugested.
take a look at the Flatehead mocs on the link i posted
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here is a black foot moc from 1880
(http://traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/forum/gallery/image.php?album_id=56&image_id=5589)
as you can see its a simple fold over side seam with a 2nd taller upper added so that they can be wrapped around the ankle
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Charles, That's it, Thank you
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I have been using George white's 'Craft Manual of North American Indian footwear' since I found it in 1970. He talks you through making the patterns for each type, and most the major moccasin types are covered. I usually make the Salish (Flathead) for myself, which is similar to what you what. For this time of year in Ideeho, get a pair of felt packs, and measure your foot wool socks and them on. I wore canvas Mukluks with felt packs, and wool socks in the Antarctic and never had cold feet. Not much difference between buckskin, and the canvas.....except looks.
Woody
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I have been using George white's 'Craft Manual of North American Indian footwear' since I found it in 1970. He talks you through making the patterns for each type, and most the major moccasin types are covered. I usually make the Salish (Flathead) for myself, which is similar to what you what. For this time of year in Ideeho, get a pair of felt packs, and measure your foot wool socks and them on. I wore canvas Mukluks with felt packs, and wool socks in the Antarctic and never had cold feet. Not much difference between buckskin, and the canvas.....except looks.
Woody
I just got that book from my parents, we have had it for decades..
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I have a pattern for the Ft Ligonier boot that I got from the historical society of the fort. I've made a pair for summer wear and a winter pac boot.
Winter
Summer
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/JADiehlJr/IMG_0329MA31919740-0001_zpsodutsamy.jpg) (http://http)
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Is there a pattern for Missouri moccasin? I.would like to be able to wear them while out hunting.
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I don't know anything about a MO moccasin. If you check with some of the historical associations in MO they may be able to help.
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Or any of the Plains Indian mocs?
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If you do a search for "How to make plains indian moccasins." You will get lots of patterns and instructions. That's how I got started with mine.