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Traditional Firearms => Caplock Long Guns => Topic started by: Uncle Russ on July 14, 2014, 07:20:40 PM

Title: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: Uncle Russ on July 14, 2014, 07:20:40 PM
Don't know anything at all about this "new" rifle from October Country over in Idaho, but one thing is for certain, it would appear to be a most welcome addition for those who don't, or for some reason can't, build their own!

Like other "Hawken" rifles of today it bears a Hawken resemblance and has Hawken-Like features. I don't know the cost, but I would imagine it to be somewhere on the order of a semi-custom built by one of our own builders.

Here is a brief description....."The barrels are from Green Mountain, one-inch wide, and available in .50, .54, or .58 caliber, all with a rate of twist at one turn in 70 inches with a groove depth of .011.
The Hawken percussion lock from L&R is used, and barrels are fitted with a hooked patent breech. The barrel, lock, and triggers are browned and the forearm of the stock on the deluxe version is “capped” with a poured pewter nose cap. Other furniture is made of German silver.


Here is the entire article from Mike Nesbitt as seen on Facebook...
 New October Country rifle offers Hawken-like features | TheGunMag - The Official Gun Magazine of the Second Amendment FoundationTheGunMag – The Official Gun Magazine of the Second Amendment Foundation (http://www.thegunmag.com/new-october-country-rifle-offers-hawken-like-features/)

Since I need to pay the Weaving Welshman a visit we will likely put a short October Country stop on the agenda for things to do that same day.


Uncle Russ...
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 14, 2014, 07:47:49 PM
Russ,
As a matter of fact, I happen to own that very same rifle that Nesbitt wrote about.  It's a good rifle.  Interesting enough, I went to a shoot with it in February of this year.  Hadn't popped a cap in months and months.  Really hadn't taken the time to develop a load or even adjust the sights.  Figured that I would try 85 grains of Ffg GOEX, .530 ball and .015 patches lubed with saliva.  Of course, as per other discussions, I was using RWS caps, out of a metal can.  As a matter of fact, the GOEX came out of a metal can as well.
Long story short, darned if I didn't win the match.  It's a pretty good shooter.
Overall impressions of the rifle are that it does feel a wee bit clubby and nose heavy, but it holds mighty steady.  With the Green Mountain premium barrel, it is a good shooter.  The L & R lock is quick and positive.  The metal surfaces are all browned, and it is a very even job.  Nice piece of maple.  I don't think it is quite as good as claimed, but it is a pretty piece of firewood.  The triggers are crisp.  Unset they are a bit much, but set is about 2 pounds, I would guess.
I think the MSRP is right about $1,595.00 plus shipping and tax where applicable.
I don't believe the rifle is a reproduction of any particular style, just a half stock, plains style rifle.
John
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: sse on July 14, 2014, 10:51:49 PM
Well, the one in the article is sure nice to look at...
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: KHickam on July 22, 2014, 02:50:29 PM
Well, that is a nice rifle -
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: Dakotas Dad on August 19, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Saw one in person last spring. very nice. I agree it's not any particular pattern, but is a very nice rifle none the less. I had just bought a Rocky Mountain Hawken by Pedersoli, or I might have considered it.
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: Bigsmoke on August 19, 2014, 09:29:03 AM
DD,
I saw that Rocky Mtn Hawken at Pedersoli's booth at the SHOT Show several years ago and was mightily impressed with it.  Figured it might make a good rifle to have one of these days.  How about starting another thread and telling us about it.
John
Title: Re: The "NEW" Liver Eatin Johnson Rifle by October Country.
Post by: Roaddog on August 20, 2014, 07:30:16 AM
I want one! :cry: