Post by: Lonewolfe20 on July 17, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
I checked the gun tonight and saw that I have rust scale build up in some areas
I heated and applied the solution twice and then oil the barrel down with
bore butter I oiled it several times but still it rusts.
I have read in some articles about boiling the barrel in water to stop the rust
what have I done wrong or what should my next step be
Thanks everybody
Post by: Roaddog on July 18, 2014, 07:24:36 AM
Post by: Detached on July 18, 2014, 07:27:05 AM
You have to wash down the barrel with hot water, then dry. I don't know that bore butter is the correct treatment. They suggest the use of their own product, which smells like WD-40. I have used both with success.
https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Manage/l ... -2013.aspx (https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Manage/literature/refinishing-guide-2013.aspx)
Post by: Lonewolfe20 on July 18, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
of the bottle but felt they were kind of vague.
Have a good weekend
Mitakuye Oyasin
Post by: Detached on July 18, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 18, 2014, 01:22:44 PM
I think the main thing trying to avoid is letting further oxygen get to the metal surface to continue the oxidizing process. Bore Butter? Should do the trick as well.
As far as killing the browning process, I used to use washing soda, which can be found in the laundry section at your grocery store. It's like baking soda, but on steroids.
Enjoy. Hope it all comes out well.
John
Post by: Captchee on July 18, 2014, 08:18:57 PM
Ill stop there on that .
What I do is completely oil the barrel . If I want a more red brown , then ill use ATF but it must be a non detergent ATF.
For the most part I use simple motor oil . Just slop it on good and heavy . Let it set over night and do it again .
Baking soda will also work to neutralize but normally I don’t use it unless im rusting a Damascus barrel
Post by: Lonewolfe20 on July 18, 2014, 10:26:45 PM
I will wash and then oil it with some motor oil
I don't have any non-det ATF
How did I go wrong with bore butter in your opinion
Also what do you guys oil your barrels with after cleaning them after a shoot
Thanks for helping me on my first barrel guys
Also I downloaded the Casey book as well
Mitakuye Oyasin
Post by: Captchee on July 19, 2014, 06:19:04 AM
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How did I go wrong with bore butter in your opinion
LOL I just heard that big ,,,,,,gasp,,,,,,,, and a ; oh man , don’t get him started .
Ill spair them the speech lol and just say ....
Personally IMO bore butter/ wonder lube / 1000 bore butter ............. is not good for much of anything to include putting in your bore .
Well let me take that back and say it doesn’t do to bad as a conical lube
But past all that .........
When you use chloride of antimony or its modern equivalent ,which is still nothing more then browning salts , you have to stop the acidic reaction of those salts . The way to do that is to encapsulate, thus neutralize “OIL” or chemically neutralize them “baking soda”
Bore butter is a grease its not an oil . What you want is something that will stay liquid and soak into and around the Iron oxide that’s forming your brown. It has to get down , around and through it tell such time as once again its contacting the base metal . If it doesn’t then the oxide will continue to grow.
Bore butter even if applied hot so that it will go on in liquid form does not soak deep enough . Now it might if you kept applying it over a long period of time .
But IMO it wont in a couple days .
Post by: snake eyes on July 19, 2014, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: "Lonewolfe20"
Also what do you guys oil your barrels with after cleaning them after a shootPersonally I use Rem-Oil. Never had a problem with rust, but I do tend to clean
them quite often.At least lightly once a month.More just to handle them than anything
else.
snake-eyes
Post by: Lonewolfe20 on July 19, 2014, 10:59:51 AM
I never thought about the differences of grease vs oil
Thank you very much for the explanation
My father inlaw used Remington as well I wondered if there anything better
Thanks everyone have a great weekend
Mitakuye Oyasin
Post by: Detached on July 19, 2014, 12:13:37 PM
Post by: cb on July 19, 2014, 12:48:58 PM
Then use a good oil while the part is still warm I use Tried True's linseed oil, which is an old fashioned real boiled linseed oil, similar to that used by period gunsmiths.
Post by: Captchee on July 19, 2014, 06:09:15 PM
However one should be very aware that ammonia does always play well with those around it . In other words if you have used say bleach to either age or rust a barrel , you might want to be a little careful with the ammonia .
Baking soda doesn’t really have any real issues with reactions