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Traditional Firearms => Caplock Long Guns => Topic started by: petew on August 12, 2014, 01:34:56 PM

Title: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: petew on August 12, 2014, 01:34:56 PM

I have a 45 cal with a 32" barrel , percussion ,that has no  information on the manufacturer. The barrel is stamped 45 cal on the side, proof tested and a small circle on the top flat with the letters BP in it. The lock is stamped Japan on the inside.
 The patch box, trigger guard and side plate are engraved , not stamped, with some nice simple scrolling.  Any idea who may be the manufacturer?
 I took the barrel off the stock looking for a clue, but there are no other marks.

(http://peteward.com/Black%20Powder/kentucky/1.JPG)

(http://peteward.com/Black%20Powder/kentucky/2.JPG)

(http://peteward.com/Black%20Powder/kentucky/3.JPG)

(http://peteward.com/Black%20Powder/kentucky/4.JPG)

(http://peteward.com/Black%20Powder/kentucky/5.JPG)

Title: Re: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: Stormrider51 on August 17, 2014, 11:48:04 AM

I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable person about factory muzzleloaders but I do remember that back in the 1970's there were guns imported from Japan.  Some were made by Miroku which is still a well known maker of high quality guns today.  (Think Browning Citori shotguns.)  I seem to remember a company called Ultra Hi as well.  The quality of their products varied quite a bit, I believe.  Hopefully someone with more complete information will speak up.

Storm

Title: Re: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: snake eyes on August 17, 2014, 01:51:50 PM

Quote from: "Stormrider51"

Hopefully someone with more complete information will speak up.
Storm

 Storm,
              Me also.....looks like a fine addition to my other .45's. Hardware being engraved
rather than stamped should say something about the organ......or not :shake [/color]

Title: Re: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: mocons on November 05, 2014, 03:20:54 AM

I have one almost exactly like it . Mine imported by Sears Roebuck from Miroku Japan. The Miroku barrel is a great improvement from the Spanish CVA. With my old eyes and iron sights; a .015 patched rb over 65 gr 3f Kik it will hold about 2 1/2" at 100 yds. There were several other importers at the time. I bought mine , unfired, with a bent hammer for 100$ off Armslist. Took a lot of filing off the top and groove of the rear sight and some drifting of both front and rear to get it on the bull at 100.

Title: Re: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: petew on November 05, 2014, 01:32:24 PM

I ended up selling it to finance another project. Sad to see it go , but it is what it is.

Title: Re: Mystery gun ID?
Post by: Captchee on November 07, 2014, 01:58:22 PM

Miroku