Post by: Dogbyte on November 18, 2014, 08:53:33 AM
Does anyone know of a good builder kit in either of these calibers thats good quality, accurate rifle in the end? I tried looking online a few places, but then i read about quality control issues in some of the brands, like traditions. I think the Lyman kits are more in my price range, but having a hard time finding a flint 32 or 36, only percussion. I see that there is some debate among small game hunters on which is better, im still reading others opinions about it, have not made up my mind, and would love to hear some more. But so far im leaning to the 32.
although i've never shot a set trigger setup, most all the 32's ive seen have them, presumably for accuracy? Some ive seen didnt have them, but does this make them less potential for being accurate?
Only other muzzleloader i own is a cva bobcat .54, which i love, and was surprised with its accuracy, especially after buying it with all the fixings for 85 bucks last year.
Post by: Dogbyte on November 18, 2014, 09:03:40 AM
Post by: gunmaker on November 18, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
Post by: Dogbyte on November 18, 2014, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: "gunmaker"
What kind or style of gun you looking for ? Sometimes those little fellas come up on gunbroker or other sites...Tom
im still so brand new, i wouldnt know one from the other. just something more hunter oriented, not target.
yeah, you ever tried gunwatcherDotcom? pretty handy sometimes, just gotta play with the filters to narrow down the results.
as far as styles, i have no idea....if its not more than aesthetics, i'd just want to be as practical as possible.
Post by: gunmaker on November 18, 2014, 12:21:08 PM
(http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a555/TomKnight43/32%20cal%20Indiana%20flint%20rifle/P1000757_zpsbe7fe197.jpg) (http://http)you can click to see it made.
Post by: Dogbyte on November 18, 2014, 12:46:02 PM
that is one beautiful gun. would be proud to eat a mess of squirrels taken with that.
Post by: gunmaker on November 18, 2014, 01:31:48 PM
Post by: Dogbyte on November 18, 2014, 01:35:27 PM
Post by: Kermit on November 18, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
ASSRA Forum - Index (http://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl)
Post by: Dogbyte on November 19, 2014, 08:05:58 AM
Quote from: "Kermit"
You could sell the Unertl on EvilBay if you want to mess with them. The guys on the ASSRA site would be interested. Depending on the model and condition, you might MORE than double your budget. I've seen some go for over $1000.
ASSRA Forum - Index (http://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl)
thanks for the link, I will have to check it out.
i dont have a rare one, its a low serial number though, but its just a 1" target scope, 10x, fine cross hairs.
Post by: Hanshi on November 19, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
Mike Lange would have been my first suggestion but, alas, he rarely builds nowadays.
This is my .36 TVM SMR; a real jewel.
(http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/hanshi_photo/212162d0-11a5-441d-bc0a-a64d4e714e37_zpsa331cf72.jpg) (http://http)
Post by: backwoodsdave on November 19, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Post by: Dogbyte on November 19, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: "backwoodsdave"
Six months ago I was in the same boat you are, I had a little cva squirrel rifle in .32 percussion and it was a sweet little gun, very small, seemed like a kids size gun but im a big guy, great gun though, the traditions crockett is very nice, .32 and percussion only though I think, then I found a pedersoli frontier flint in .36 at a gun show, offered 300 for it and brought it home, really nice gun, sparks good and super accurate with only 20-25 grns. of 3f, now fast forward a little and I sold off some rifles I collected since the black powder bug hit and I get a chance to visit Tip Curtis and handle some different style rifles, I brought home a southern style .36 flinter and love it, handles great and lighter than the pedersoli, anyway point being I guess, .32 or .36, both cheap to shoot, accurate, head shots only on squirrel with either I would think, .36 maybe a littler heavier for bigger varmints, handle some rifles if you can and get an idea of what fits you and and go from there, im sure someone on the forum could fix you up or send you in the right direction for a good custom/semi custom rifle, I bought from tip because I was there and could handle so many rifles and ive read good things about him, lots of good builders out there, get what you want and enjoy it.
yeah that sounds like a good idea....i did the same thing when i first starting shooting longbows...makes a big difference handling the different setups.
i also like the idea of getting one in "the white" like Hanshi mentioned...
Post by: backwoodsdave on November 19, 2014, 04:35:56 PM
Post by: RobD on November 20, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sdTU6lF.jpg)
Post by: Stormrider51 on November 21, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
Second, something you mentioned and nobody has addressed, is double-set triggers. I love the darned things but they scare some people. I adjust them down to about 1 lb or a less. It doesn't matter if I'm shooting from the bench or looking to take the head off of a squirrel, I set the rear trigger as I bring the rifle to my shoulder and then let my finger just touch the front trigger as I aim. The instant I have the sight picture I want, I twitch my trigger finger and the shot is on the way. It takes a little getting used to but once mastered they are a great aid to accurate shooting.
Good Luck!
Storm
Post by: RobD on November 21, 2014, 10:02:54 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 22, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
Here is the inside of his shop, guns in the white and finished, any style, caliber or length of pull you can think of.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/tipcurtisshoppic_zps007edd7b.jpg) (http://http)
In my opinion, his rifles and fowlers are some of the best made among the semi custom builders plus you don't have to place an order and wait for your gun to be built.
An in the white gun will be about $1100 + or - at his shop, finished a few hundred more.
Post by: Hanshi on November 22, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Post by: Roaddog on November 23, 2014, 07:43:27 AM
It shoots as good as it looks. I would sell it to you for 700.00 + 30.00 shipping.I pade 950.for it several years ago. I need to get a corn stove for my shop. So if your interested shoot me a PM and we will work it out.
Roaddog
Post by: backwoodsdave on November 23, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: "Roaddog"
Dogbite I have a 36 cal. flinter made by Jack Garner. It has a 42" barrel with Jack's signature on the top flat on the barrel.It has a brass acorn inlay on the wrist and a eagle on the cheekrest.Very nice mapel full stock with good figure in the wood and set trigers.Wish I coulda run across some deals like this when I was looking, prob cant hardly buy the parts to build one for that.
It shoots as good as it looks. I would sell it to you for 700.00 + 30.00 shipping.I pade 950.for it several years ago. I need to get a corn stove for my shop. So if your interested shoot me a PM and we will work it out.
Roaddog
Post by: Riley/MN on November 23, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: "Eric Krewson"
If there is any way you can get to Tip's shop I highly recommend it, shouldering each rifle to find out what fits is a major plus. He is located above Nashville about 25 miles, at Cross Plains Tn.
Here is the inside of his shop, guns in the white and finished, any style, caliber or length of pull you can think of.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/tipcurtisshoppic_zps007edd7b.jpg) (http://http)
In my opinion, his rifles and fowlers are some of the best made among the semi custom builders plus you don't have to place an order and wait for your gun to be built.
An in the white gun will be about $1100 + or - at his shop, finished a few hundred more.
Hey Eric, I will be flying in to Nashville Friday. May have some time to kill. I know it is Thanksgiving weekend and all, but is Tip's shop worth stopping in at even if a fella is not in the market ta buy nuthin?
Post by: backwoodsdave on November 24, 2014, 12:27:14 AM
Post by: RobD on November 24, 2014, 05:41:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ntNK36P.jpg)
Post by: Dogbyte on November 24, 2014, 09:08:08 AM
Thanks for the offer Roaddog, really wish i could take you up on it.
Post by: Roaddog on November 25, 2014, 05:59:45 AM
Post by: rickevans on December 03, 2014, 10:16:32 PM