Post by: 509thsfs on March 01, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
Slot on liner is a bit messed up. Had a problem countersinking and torqued it a bit too much as I worked on it. May replace later. I plan on opening the hole a tad bit. Don't know if that might compensate a bit for being slightly off.
By the way. this is my 1st build attempt. Pretty ticked off I blew this after so many measurements taken
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww187/USAF-SP/liner1_zpsz1cy4e2q.jpg) (http://http)
Post by: rollingb on March 01, 2015, 05:23:24 PM
Post by: ridjrunr on March 01, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
Let us know how it turns out.
And welcome to the fire!
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 02, 2015, 10:28:48 AM
I am a beginner as well and mark the hole location with the lock in place, punch a divot at the correct spot and follow up with 5/64" drill bit first, then an 1/8" and step up to the full size bit for the liner. I do have a cross slide vise on my drill press that makes hitting the mark much easier.
Here is my slopped up first gun, at least the touch hole liner location is correct. I am proud of my second gun but not so much the first, although I have killed a pile of deer with it. Some day, when I have nothing to do, I am going to redo the gun in the picture to correct all my goof-ups. Between gun #1 and gun #2, I discovered Optivisors, amazing how much better work you can do when you can actually see what you are working on.
Here is the same gun marked and ready to punch. Sometimes my punch mark might be slightly off but I can move it to the correct spot with a little sideways tapping. Of course I take the barrel out of the stock to mark my spot and proceed.
Post by: 509thsfs on March 02, 2015, 11:45:14 AM
Post by: Smallpatch on March 02, 2015, 11:51:05 AM
Post by: 509thsfs on March 02, 2015, 11:52:40 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 02, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
The gun went off OK but I sure hated looking at that touch hole placement, that and the fact that the lock inlet was filled with hot melt glue to take up the slack from bad inletting turned me away from TC guns
Post by: 509thsfs on March 02, 2015, 03:05:04 PM
Post by: snake eyes on March 02, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
Quote from: "509thsfs"
I'm thinking (hoping) that with the shape of the pan, the flash will still be "funneled" to the touch hole ok. I also prefer my touch holes to be slightly larger than what it is now. But I will work on all that when shooting tome comes. Right not it "just don't look right".509thsfs,
Maybe I missed it,but have you ever shot the gun from the original question?
snake-eyes
Post by: 509thsfs on March 02, 2015, 05:33:30 PM
Post by: snake eyes on March 02, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
Post by: 509thsfs on March 02, 2015, 09:13:21 PM
Post by: Daveco on March 04, 2015, 10:25:41 AM
Dave.
Post by: 509thsfs on March 04, 2015, 11:10:12 AM
Post by: Captchee on March 09, 2015, 09:50:59 AM
As to how it happens , ?? It happens . that’s all I can say . Sometimes I think maybe it maybe the angle of the light …..?? don’t know . But even after all these years , there are times when I go ; HOLLY!!! Crap how did that happen ?.
Now ….., the flash hole or installation of a liner is one of the very last steps I do . Locating the position is one of the first things I do . That way I have to lock at the mark through the whole build .
Post by: rollingb on March 09, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: "Captchee"
. while not perfect it should be ok . i you end up with issues , i doubt you will . i would make a new liner with an off set hole . that way you can move the liner more center and still use the existing liner location .Same here and so far I've never had a misplaced touch hole,... HOWEVER, that's not saying I haven't screwed up in OTHER places of a build. :)
As to how it happens , ?? It happens . that’s all I can say . Sometimes I think maybe it maybe the angle of the light …..?? don’t know . But even after all these years , there are times when I go ; HOLLY!!! Crap how did that happen ?.
Now ….., the flash hole or installation of a liner is one of the very last steps I do . Locating the position is one of the first things I do . That way I have to look at the mark through the whole build .
Post by: 509thsfs on March 09, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Guessing, since when I have the lock out, and the trigger is not set, I can't fit the lock back into place, that the set trigger is still a bit high and hitting the sear arm. When I set the set trigger, the lock fits back into place easily. I'm playing with the backlash screw and set trigger engagement screw . Had it close a few times.
I have about 8 hours over 3 days into trying to work this puzzle out. I cringe every time I take a file to the trigger bars now, but seems to be slowly helping. Been reading and following the instructions like crazy. Just don't know when I'd be filing too much off. Or do I still keep going until it "works". That's my dilemma now. well, on the upside, I'm learning. Especially learning when to just walk away and come back and try the next day haha
Post by: Captchee on March 10, 2015, 08:13:57 AM
Here is my suggestion
Take your lock out and look in the sear hole of the stock , with the trigger un set .
You should see the rear trigger bar angled across the hole .
Now set the trigger . Now the top edge of both trigger bars should be bellow or even with the bottom of the sear hole .
If they are not , then the trigger bars need to be filed “DON’T go below the engagement notches where the triggers lock under and over each other “
OR
The trigger set itself must be dropped down a little by shimming under the trigger set .
NOW when you set the trigger , the bars go below the hole and your still having issues with the lock coming to full cock , then I would blacken the bottom and tip of the sear with transfer ink . Set the lock back to the stock and work it a couple times . Take the lock back out and check for ink transfer around and in the bottom of the sear hole.
If there is none and the lock will cock set but not unset . Then your issue is the trigger main spring is to tight . Back the screw off a ½ turn
As to the trigger not setting . Most times that do to the small trigger spring on the front trigger being bound up . IE the front trigger notch is at an angle and the rear triggers , trigger notch , cannot engage .
Post by: 509thsfs on March 10, 2015, 08:34:35 AM
Post by: 509thsfs on March 12, 2015, 05:55:57 AM
Captchee. Thanks for the advice. Like I said, was not what we were looking for, but it did make me look at other places that could cause the problem.
Post by: Three Steps on April 03, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Post by: 509thsfs on July 21, 2015, 08:47:09 AM
Video,,,if you have not seen it from my other thread
Bedford Co. Flintlock Test Fire - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGrO1Rs9hnc&feature=youtu.be)
Post by: blackpowderbill on July 25, 2015, 06:38:56 AM
After about a 1,000 shots I pulled the breech plug, cut it back, polished and reinstalled. So it is a tad short of sitting on the inside lip , EH. After 4,000 + shots it works just great.