Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Traditional Firearms => Caplock Long Guns => Topic started by: RobD on August 31, 2015, 08:08:05 AM
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i've got one due to arrive this week. have heard nothing but good things about it for the most part. i know there might be a hammer/nipple alignment issue that a bit of judicious bending should solve. i know i'll be making a wood ramrod to replace the aluminum one, and add in a threaded jag (and i'll reduce the jag diameter as need be for a better cleaning patch fit).
how's the nipple quality? it's s'posed to be a 6x1 and was thinking of getting some hot shot s/s spare nipples.
how's that d/s trigger quality and performance? i heard it could a possible issue. anyone replace it with a good davis d/s?
any comments on the sights, in particular that rear buckhorn?
tia!
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Good for you! Have had one for several years. No problems with hammer alignment, but nipple shattered after first twenty some shots. Take out clean out screw in breech first thing and anti seez threads, use a .22 cal tip to clean patent breech, (tiny opening), otherwise, fun and light rifle. If you want to sell your alum ramrod, I am interested in it, bent mine, need new one. thanks.
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yes, for sure about the breech plug as i just learned that valuable lesson in another thread i started about a stuck ball in a smooth bore. from now on i'm pulling off all breech plugs and anti-seizing the threads. dittos for cap lock worms and nipples.
what new nipple didja get and how's it working for ya?
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Replaced it with a traditions I had and so far it is holding up. I had to make a funnel tho to pour powder down that tiny bore esp because you use so little powder! My load is 20 gr fffg and .010 patched rb. Other things that gripes me is having to unscrew barrel tang to remove barrel, and that tiny patent breech. But quality of rifle and fun factor outweigh little gripes.
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I thoroughly enjoyed mine!
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I thoroughly enjoyed mine!
i really like yer new .32, too!
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I've had a Crockett for a number of years now. It may have been Uncle Russ who convinced me to get one and try it out...he's a big believer in the mighty .32. I've never been disappointed in it. I did have to shoot the rammer out (Co2) twice when I first got it :)
BTW...mine was/is capable of better groups than I could give it off hand
Al
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.32 is great in any maker! just saying..... Love mine - gives me the smoke and smell,accruacy and feel and LESS! less lead less powder ,smaller patches and more fun!
Mostly the more fun for LESS!!!!!!!
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the crockett nipple is listed as a 6x1 and to use #11 caps.
knowing that there are lotsa differences in both nipples and caps, what brand and size seems to work best in your crockett?
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anything I can get at this point!
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My only problem has been getting the cleaning patch sizes just right.
I bought a brass rod and the patches get stuck if just a little too big.
The .30 - .39 work but I trim them down. Same with .22 LR square patches
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crockett arrived this afternoon. very nice, very light. the aluminum ramrod is totally out of place and will get replaced with a wood or bamboo rod. hope it'll work with #10 caps. anyone use musket caps with the crockett?
anyhoo, the hammer's cup has a kinda "V" slice up front - is that a defect or is it intentional, perhaps to divert potential busted cap pieces?
(http://i.imgur.com/tMglNj1.jpg)
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I use #11s. The notch is supposed to be there...supposed to help keep the cap from sticking and/or make it easier to remove any that do.
Al
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I have had my Crockett for over 10 years now, it is a very good shooting rifle. I ended up browning the barrel shortly after I bought it. I got these the last time I went out hunting last winter. I also found the round ball in the fox squirrel when I cleaned it. [album:17bg0319]5671[/album:17bg0319][album:17bg0319]5672[/album:17bg0319][album:17bg0319]5673[/album:17bg0319][album:17bg0319]5675[/album:17bg0319]
Season opens back up in 10 more days I can't wait to get back out into the woods and try to get more bushy tails.
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thanx for all yer input, fellers. loving the looks and feel of this rifle. will baptize it this wednesday morning.
fwiw, cci #10 caps fit the stock 6x1 nipple and go off just fine! click the image below for the video ...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lxousU5mD34/hqdefault.jpg) (http://https)
didn't like the orange anodized aluminum ramrod so i stained and clear coated a straight grained birch dowel, made it an inch longer for ease of use, added a tenon to the tip then glued and riveted on a brass jag cap. ah, mo' bettah!
(http://i.imgur.com/i77wUbW.jpg)
what a difference 'tween the .562's for the .58 musket (280 grains) and the .311's for the .32 (45 grains) .......
(http://i.imgur.com/rlG5nQu.jpg)
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That is what I like - less powder and led for plinkin' give more 'bang for the buck '
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You have some little balls, there, but as Fletcher says, little balls, little powder and lots of fun.
Ron
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what a blast shooting this little rifle yesterday. i built a birch wood ramrod to replace the aluminum one, and made it lots longer for ease of use. also made a ball starter and cast up a bunch of lee .311 pure lead balls and used .010" linen patch material that's dry lubed with 5% ballistol and spring water. 20 grains of goex 3f and a cci #10 cap (not #11) and off she goes.
i'm not a fan of cap locks, but i heartily recommend that everybody needs this one!
click the image below to see the vid ...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rdwiCpxManQ/hqdefault.jpg) (http://https)
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You made a birchwood ramrod for that riflet? Out of what, a round toothpick? :rotf
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You made a birchwood ramrod for that riflet? Out of what, a round toothpick? :rotf
no, a straight-as-an-arrow 5/16" arrow shaft. :Doh!
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Toothpick woulda been cheeper.
I'm sorry, here you are, trying to be serious and answer a silly question, and I am just going for the chuckle factor.
I know a toothpick wouldn't work, it isn't long enough. (Close to the right diameter, though.) I really hope you enjoy the little rifle. I also have heard good reports, although in years gone by when we sold them, there were some QC issues that bothered me about the guns, namely lineup of hammer-nipple, function of lock assembly, and fit and finish of furniture to wood. Hopefully, they have cleaned up those issues by now. I recall having to ship back a number of them then, probably in the late 1990's?
John
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ha ha, yer funny, john.
maybe i got lucky, probably so noting others with traditions firearms issues, but this one's a keeper for sure.
four little 32 holes and a pair of 58's @ 33 yards ...
(http://i.imgur.com/oilR3Nl.jpg)
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rfd, I'm pleased that you're pleased!
Does that make sense?
In fact, I am pleased that all those who dearly love the little three-two are pleased, and I suspects that's mostly because it makes me look a bit less silly when I personally praise the many values of this little rifle.
Short story on the little .32;
Years ago, in what would be the early days of muzzleloading for many folks, and that would have have been sometime around, or a bit earlier than 1976, I showed up at a match in Paso Del Norte packin a mighty little three-two flinter.
If I recall just right the laughter started long before the first shot was fired, but that laughter seemed to break into a rolling thunder after I fired the first shot....just the sound of that little pip-squeak sent laughter roaring through the Pass to the North.....unnerving at best! They had suddenly won the psychology of the match before it had gotten underway good.
It was a twenty shot match, five banks of targets, which was standard back in that day, ten off-hand, ten from a rest......
By noon of that same day there was no more laughing, no more cheap shots at my little "pea shooter", nothing but Oohs, and Ahaa's as I very calmly took their money, every last penny of it, as I had easily taken both off-hand, and the rest events...no arguing, no discussion, no measurements required!
Since that day I have been convinced that, for all practical purposes, the mighty little three-two is a winner in many many respects, none of the least being its power when needed, or its lack thereof.
Back in those days it was popular, albeit more than just a mite dangerous, to "load 'em till they crack"!
That "load 'em till they crack" happened somewhere around 43-45gr FFFg in that particular gun, and the tighter the better with the patch......couldn't afford a Chronograph back in those days so I have no clue what the little 47gr pill was doing velocity wise, but the sound was eerie similar to that of a cartridge rifle.
Shortly after this, and a few years before retirement, I was stationed at Ft. McClellan, Alabama...smack dab in the very heart of "Skwerl" country, and then, that same rifle, became the love of my life using 15gr FFFG, as I became a walkin, talkin, singin, hootin, hollerin threat to every Bushytail in the county....and Alabama has some big beautiful Grey Squirrels!
The bag limit back then was very generous, and "southern Skwerl recipes" were aplenty.....it was during this time that I became convinced there was simply nothing better that the gentlemanly art of Squirrel Hunting, which was indeed the Prince of the hunting sports, and that little three-two was that same Gentleman Hunter's choice of firearms.
And, nothing has ever come along to change that thinkin.
Uncle Russ...
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ya know, unca russ, since i've been having so much 32 crockett fun i been thinking about a 32 flinter, too - and keb's got one coming up for sale ...
(http://muskratandholland.choppix.com/uploads/images/Gallery/Rifles/32-cal-Barn-Gun/Maple-32-001.jpg)
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fwiw ...
just found out that all of the traditions firearms sidelock muzzle loaders have "welded" breech plugs.
attempting to remove any of these plugs will destroy the barrel.
:shock: :Doh!
ymmv.
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ya know, unca russ, since i've been having so much 32 crockett fun i been thinking about a 32 flinter, too - and keb's got one coming up for sale ...
(http://muskratandholland.choppix.com/uploads/images/Gallery/Rifles/32-cal-Barn-Gun/Maple-32-001.jpg)
That's what happened to me. My Crockett caused me to love the .32 caliber. Wasn't too many years later that I started daydreaming of a .32 in a flint longrifle. Now I'm truly
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Now, you fine fellows have done it!
I want a pea-shooter 32 or 36 cal longrifle flintlock, as well!
Ron
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aside from the breech plug issue, the crockett is a total blast to both load and shoot!
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RonC....the addiction to the little three-two is very easy to come by.
All ya gotta do is try it, it's that simple.
You guys that live in Skwerl Country are truly lucky, and those who do and still don't take a shot or three with the awesome little three-two, you are missing out on some of the very best hunting imaginable.
Other calibers will work just fine too. Never hunted with a .36 but I've shot a few of them over the years.
I have tried "barking" with a .45 but that didn't work out well with Deer loads. I tried a reduced load and after a few hitches I did take a few Squirrel with that.
Never tried a .50 or a .54, never had the need, but I have heard stories....if ya know what I mean.
It has been years now since I hunted the hardwoods, and just as many years since I drew a bead on ol' bushytail.
Hanshi, I totally agree, what with all this talk about one of my favorite calibers, that urge to hunt the mighty Skwerl again is powerfully strong.
To all you "wee-caliber" guys that live for Squirrel hunting, I salute you!
I have always heard, "it's the little things in life that count", well, I now feel quite confident the fella that first said that was most likely referring to the little .32.........
Have fun....that's what Muzzleloading is really all about!
Uncle Russ...
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Russ,
I agree 100%! :shake [/color]
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+2 unca russ!
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Uh, make that 3!
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As it turns out I now have longrifles in both .32 and .36, :happy .
I killed them with my Crockett and then with my SMR .36. The Tn longrifle is still in the dialing in stage.
I cut my hunting teeth on squirrels and still feel the magic of those days. I still do it even now, but just not as often.
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oh man, i gotta get another mo' bettah .32 .... but a FLINTlock, this time. :applaud
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Now, you fine fellows have done it!
I want a pea-shooter 32 or 36 cal longrifle flintlock, as well!
Ron
Ron,
I have a .32, .36 and a .40. My .32 is my squirrel gun almost exclusively. My .36 for
squirrel and about anything up to the size of fox. My .40 is pretty much a range gun because it has great paper shooting ability to 50 yards. I also have a two .45s that are about the
same as the .40 as far as being accurate that I use for deer hunting with much success.
They are all percussion,my ignition of choice although I do own two F/Ls both .50cal.M2C
snake-eyes
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I have flintlocks in .45 and .50 and percussion in .45, .50 and .54.
I never thought much about the .32, so I checked on ball availability for the .32 and I am now very interested.
After all, that little .32 is so......cute!
Ron
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winter is nigh, and a good time to work on a .32 flinter kit for the coming spring thaw.
i have in mind pedersoli's pennsylvania .32, from DGW .....
(http://www.dixiegunworks.com/images/FR3040.JPG)
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rfd, I saw a Pedersoli carbine version of that, but with the short barrel, it just doesn't look like a longrifle should. Of course it doesn't, it is a short rifle.
I have my eyes open for a used longrifle in .32 to pop up on one of the sites. After selling a dual-sport motorcycle, I have some expendable funds for the important things in life, like muzzleloaders.
Ron
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i hear ya, ron. the pic above is the pedersoli pennsylvania .32 rifle, with 41-1/2" barrel. the kit is $650, not bad.
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I really want one to, I've never owned a small caliber BPR, looking forward to your review in it, congrats