Post by: River_Rogue on September 06, 2015, 09:25:03 PM
Post by: Rocklock on September 06, 2015, 10:42:19 PM
Post by: greyhunter on September 07, 2015, 05:45:22 AM
Post by: No Deer on September 07, 2015, 06:17:24 AM
and get slower ignition, and too little and you will not get reliable ignition. Studies have shown that banked against the touch hole gives the fastest ignition, however again, you will have to experiment to see what works best for you.As far as using 2f in the pan, it depends on your gun. I know people with besses use 2f in the pan and their guns always go off. The British military (as well as many others) used paper cartridges for loading, they tore off the end, primed, then poured the rest down the barrel to load. If you are using 2f, there is no need to use smaller grain for prime, again your gun will tell you by how fast and reliably it goes off.
Post by: prairie dog on September 07, 2015, 11:58:28 AM
My experiments with my Chief's gun on a bench rest showed me what that gun does.
Its' fastest ignition is with 2-F in the barrel and 4-F in the pan.
2-f in the pan works well when the weather is damp under hunting conditions when the powder will be in the pan for a while before you shoot. It doesn't absorb moisture as quickly as 4-F.
Several of my shooting friends use 3-F for the load and prime. They avoid the need to carry a priming horn and their fire locks always fire.
I tried 3-F loads in my gun but it seamed to me that it fired faster with 2-F loads.
Try the different combinations and find out which your gun responds best with. It also pays to experiment with position of the prime in the pan. Try it close to the flash hole, on the outside edge of the pan, in the middle, and all across. Some guns have a preference. You will notice this if you are shooting from a bench, perhaps not at all if shooting off-hand.
Post by: RobD on September 07, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
Post by: River_Rogue on September 07, 2015, 06:43:24 PM
Post by: RobD on September 07, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: "River_Rogue"
The rifle is a trade rifle made by Mike Lange with a Chambers Late Ketland lock. He says it works with 2F that's how he does it.
then yer good to go. read up on recommendations for how much and where it all goes.
Post by: River_Rogue on September 07, 2015, 07:02:06 PM
Post by: RobD on September 07, 2015, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: "River_Rogue"
My main concern was just how much. I've been shooting caps but this is my first flinter. Wanted to make sure I would put the right amount in the pan.
yup, now ya know.
again - all rifles 'n' locks are different to varying degrees and yer gonna hafta see what works best for yer rifle.
Post by: Riley/MN on September 08, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
Quote from: "River_Rogue"My main concern was just how much. I've been shooting caps but this is my first flinter. Wanted to make sure I would put the right amount in the pan.
yup, now ya know.
again - all rifles 'n' locks are different to varying degrees and yer gonna hafta see what works best for yer rifle.
Yup, and it don't take much! I just use a tiny bit of ffffg when I shoot my trade gun. I would start at 1/4 to 1/3 of a pan, and tend to go down from there rather than up....
Post by: Hanshi on September 08, 2015, 03:58:29 PM
Post by: wattlebuster on September 08, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 08, 2015, 08:28:31 PM
In my .45 flinter, I use Fffg in both with good results.
Sometimes I will use Ffffg in the pan. Cannot tell a lot of difference between the 3 and 4.
I always close the frizzen and then tip the rifle lock side down to push the prime away from the touchhole.