Post by: clevefails on May 24, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on May 24, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
I recall in the past I tried .445 and even .451 ball in it, but didn't notice much more than increased difficulty loading.
The real bottom line is not to try what others do, but to work up your own loads for what the rifle wants to do.
When are you expecting delivery of the rifles? Be sure to post some pics of it.
John
Post by: clevefails on May 24, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
Post by: RobD on May 24, 2016, 02:50:20 PM
Post by: clevefails on May 24, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
Post by: RobD on May 24, 2016, 03:24:51 PM
my newest M&H .45 rifle ... 55 grains of Swiss 3F down the tube, 3F in the pan, .440" pure lead balls that I cast a few days ago, dry lube .010" linen patch strips with a layer of cigarette paper 'tween the patch and ball ...
Muskrat & Holland .45 flintlock - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQOIULQKRY)
Post by: clevefails on May 24, 2016, 03:49:14 PM
Post by: RobD on May 24, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on May 24, 2016, 04:04:56 PM
Well, I have been shooting GOEX for 40+ years and have never had a reason to change.
I did try Swiss at one point several years ago, and although it was fine powder, and I got a bit more consistent readings on the chronograph, and it might have been a tad hotter and cleaner, I didn't see enough improvement over GOEX to warrant going for it.
It's kinda like the old car thing, one person likes Fords and another likes Chevys. And once in a while you find someone who prefers American Motors. They are all good.
Same with powder. They are all good. Some like GOEX, some like Swiss, and some like KIK and other like whatever. The only thing is, if you do switch powders, then be sure to double check how your rifle is shooting, else you might get a surprise with where it hits.
And that is the fun of it all. If you are not enjoying it, you are doing it wrong.
John
Post by: Uncle Russ on May 24, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
Clevefails,........ If you are not enjoying it, you are doing it wrong.Great statement John!
John
Like many others I have also tried a lot of different "stuff" over the years, all in hopes of finding that magical sweet spot whereas that particular rifle, at that particular time, would fall in love with that particular combination....sometimes you're lucky enough to just fall into that situation, no muss, no fuss, just a couple attempts with a few different loads, and you're right on the money.... but more commonly you're going have to let the rifle find that sweet spot for you.
You simply can not push your preference, the preference of your friends, or something you read in print on the rifle and have it perform at its best.
The rifle itself will tell you what it likes best, and it will have the final word.
As Bob (rfd) so aptly stated....don't sweat it, Goex is just fine, and you'll have a ball finding that just right load, and that my friend is all a big part of the excitement!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: clevefails on May 24, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
Post by: RobD on May 24, 2016, 05:02:41 PM
Quote from: "clevefails"
Thanks guys,Im glad i joined this forum.
well, i'm sure that i'm speaking for lots of others than me - we're all sure glad to have ya here! :toast :bl th up
Post by: RobD on May 24, 2016, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: "RussB"
... You simply can not push your preference, the preference of your friends, or something you read in print on the rifle and have it perform at its best. The rifle itself will tell you what it likes best, and it will have the final word. ...
SO true for all firearms, but imho that's even more true for smokepoles!
ya play around with this stuff long enuf and ya just gravitate to personal preferences. when it comes to flintlocks, there are certain caveats that ring true for the vast majority of folks. like, powder type choices - clearly, real black powder works best for flinters and yer flinter *might* have a preference for one brand or granulate size, which just might render more consistent ignition and overall performance/accuracy.
and john is SO right - if ya ain't havin' fun with a flinter, yer definitely doing something major wrong! we can help!
Post by: amm1851 on May 24, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on May 24, 2016, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: "amm1851"
That Goex is no good. Best send it to me for proper disposal.
AMM, you planning on disposing of it 90 grains at a time? Maybe a little more, maybe a little less?
Post by: amm1851 on May 24, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
Post by: Hanshi on May 27, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Post by: sse on June 02, 2016, 10:35:37 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
+1Quote from: "clevefails"Thanks guys,Im glad i joined this forum.
well, i'm sure that i'm speaking for lots of others than me - we're all sure glad to have ya here! :toast :bl th up
Post by: Keb on June 03, 2016, 10:34:49 AM
Post by: Rocklock on June 06, 2016, 09:01:35 AM
Yes FFg Goex for main charge in all my MLs. More consistent over the chrono screens. And Goex 4F in the pans.
TC
Post by: Hanshi on June 06, 2016, 07:07:18 PM
Post by: clevefails on June 08, 2016, 05:16:02 PM
Post by: clevefails on November 29, 2016, 04:27:36 PM
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Post by: clevefails on November 29, 2016, 04:29:00 PM
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Post by: RobD on November 29, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Post by: Bigsmoke on November 29, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
Post by: Muley on November 30, 2016, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: "clevefails"
DARN,I ALREADY HAVE 5 LBS. GOEX COMING
You did fine. When I was shooting CAS I shot 2 cases of Swiss a year. I did that for two decades. Back then it was much cheaper. It's not worth what they get for it now. It's $10lb more than Shuetzen and $7lb more than Goex. Swiss is a good powder and has quite a bit more power, but it's not as clean as some say it is. It's still black powder and black powder is dirty. Swiss has built up a rep and they make you pay for it now. I won't pay for someone else's greed.
I shoot with Goex now. It's a good powder.
Post by: Ohio Joe on December 01, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
Post by: Hanshi on December 01, 2016, 05:45:52 PM
Quote from: "clevefails"
My grandsons .45 came in last week[/color]
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Welcome, clevefails. I have the twin of your rifle only mine's a .36. Actually my .45 is a TVM, too.
Post by: clevefails on February 01, 2017, 04:52:09 PM
Post by: RobD on February 01, 2017, 05:05:34 PM
Post by: Hanshi on February 01, 2017, 05:18:07 PM