Post by: Tourblanche on August 24, 2016, 12:31:18 PM
I learn how to knap flints .
Any suggestion ?
Post by: RobD on August 24, 2016, 12:58:41 PM
Muzzleloaders : How to Knap a Flint on a Muzzleloader - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMslaTuOQo)
Post by: Tourblanche on August 27, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Post by: rollingb on August 28, 2016, 04:18:18 AM
Quote from: "Tourblanche"
why brass rather than other metal/alloy ?No sparks,.... if you have to knap the flint on a loaded flinter.
Post by: Feltwad on August 28, 2016, 07:55:32 AM
Feltwad
Post by: Hanshi on August 28, 2016, 03:29:46 PM
Post by: RobD on October 15, 2016, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: "Hanshi"
Sharpening (knapping) dull flints is actually easy and takes little time to learn. It can double or sometimes triple the life of a flint. I use a copper hammer and knap mine in the cock. Just be sure you're holding a finger under the flint edge and have the cock pulled back from the cock notch otherwise you can damage the notch or sear.
an important point worth taking note of again.
Post by: Uncle Russ on October 16, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: "Rob DiStefano"
I totally agree Rob!.....I got in my old "flint bucket" to see what I could try to salvage and even attempted to knap a couple in my hand...after a few scratches/cuts I got a set of Vice Grips and after a little careful adjustment...life was much better.Quote from: "Hanshi"Sharpening (knapping) dull flints is actually easy and takes little time to learn. It can double or sometimes triple the life of a flint. I use a copper hammer and knap mine in the cock. Just be sure you're holding a finger under the flint edge and have the cock pulled back from the cock notch otherwise you can damage the notch or sear.
an important point worth taking note of again.
There was a time when I was really anal about keeping up with the number of shots I could get from each flint, by making a note of the number of ball shot that day, etc, etc,...well, long story short, flint life is all about the knapping, nothing else.
And as Hanshi so aptly mention, the learning curve is a short curve, but one that is very necessary for us flintlock shooters.
Jus'sayin.....
Uncle Russ...
Post by: RobD on October 16, 2016, 05:06:40 PM
actually, i wish i had the smarts to make a good gun flint node that will just about self knap itself with blade cores. i've got about 40# of georgetown chert and man have i tried. no question i need a one-on-one mentor, and get taught the right way - and in person!
(http://i.imgur.com/FjlYB7Y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2tsMlbn.jpg)
Post by: JStanley on November 04, 2016, 08:37:10 PM
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Post by: JStanley on November 04, 2016, 11:02:25 PM
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 08:57:49 AM
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:11:16 AM
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 09:23:41 AM
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:27:25 AM
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 09:30:03 AM
Flinter's Ring of Tools - October Country (http://www.octobercountry.com/flinters-ring-of-tools/)
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:32:15 AM
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 09:35:38 AM
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:42:33 AM
for knapping, most anything will do, even just a large bolt/screw. in fact, you don't need any thing - pull the cock to full, close the frizzen, release the trigger whilst holding the cock and allow it to scrape the frizzen (this is most likely how it was done, circa 18th century).
any piece of wire will do well for picking the vent (i use a piece of guitar string), a cut off small paint trim brush or toothbrush for cleaning (i prefer a ripped off piece of flannel shirt cloth).
that's it.
Post by: JStanley on November 05, 2016, 09:47:00 AM
Quote from: "Rob DiStefano"
for sharpening a flint, i just put the cock on half, put a finger under the edge of the flint and tap it with a small metal hammer (i keep a small knapping hammer on my shooting bag). with a few taps the edge will once again become razor sharp. do this whilst the gun is unloaded and no loose powder is in sparking range.
I was wondering why the finger under the edge move?
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: "JStanley"
Quote from: "Rob DiStefano"for sharpening a flint, i just put the cock on half, put a finger under the edge of the flint and tap it with a small metal hammer (i keep a small knapping hammer on my shooting bag). with a few taps the edge will once again become razor sharp. do this whilst the gun is unloaded and no loose powder is in sparking range.
I was wondering why the finger under the edge move?
braces the fragile flint edge to keep from bopping off large flakes, only want to remove small flakes.
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 09:54:26 AM
if the something you use can spark the flint, that's why i put in the caveat about steering clear of loose powder whilst whacking the stone.
speaking of which, a small, kinda egg shaped stone works very well, too, as a "hammer stone" for knapping the gun flint!
as is 'pressure flaking', where you use something pointed and hard (deer antler tine) to push into the flint edge to flake it.
lotsa good ways to knap a flint edge.
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 09:58:30 AM
I like to keep things simple.
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 10:00:43 AM
Knapping A Sharp Edge On A Flint To Make Fire. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWOUzPEQ3_Y)
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 10:13:05 AM
Muzzleloaders : How to Knap a Flint on a Muzzleloader - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMslaTuOQo)
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 10:30:31 AM
Quote from: "Muley"
I had watched that video. I watched all the knapping videos I could find. This one seemed the easiest and the reason I bought the hammer.
Muzzleloaders : How to Knap a Flint on a Muzzleloader - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMslaTuOQo)
to each their own, i wouldn't just bang on a gun flint edge without giving it support.
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 10:43:44 AM
It's not like i'm not listening to you what you recommend. You did say to use a small brass hammer.
Post by: RobD on November 05, 2016, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: "Muley"
I didn't say I was going to. I was just explaining why I bought the hammer. I assume if they make them that guys must be buying them. I can also just use the edge of the hammer or the rounded part to knap. I'll come up with a system that takes off the smallest amount possible, but sharpens it.
i didn't mean you, i meant the guy in the video who's whacking the gun flint edge *hard*.
folks buy lotsa stuff they don't need, it's the american way ... or rather the 20th-21st century way. people didn't want/need all that krap in the 'olden dayze' of 1950 and back.
Post by: amm1851 on November 05, 2016, 11:13:15 AM
Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 11:15:04 AM
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Post by: Muley on November 05, 2016, 11:25:36 AM
Don't you hate it when someone posts a video that's already been posted?
Post by: amm1851 on November 05, 2016, 11:31:22 AM
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Post by: amm1851 on November 05, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
Post by: Uncle Russ on November 05, 2016, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: "JStanley"
I found me a great knapping "hammer" in the scrap box at work. Not PC, HC or even purty but boy howdy is it the perfect fit to the edge of my flints. Held by the copper tube, perpendicular to the lock plate in just a few light pecks the edge looks like a razor! The flats on the brass hex nut are just under an inch in length.IMHO, that is just about as "Buckskinner" as a feller can get...find something useful, use it!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 06, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
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Post by: Muley on November 06, 2016, 09:49:45 AM
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 06, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: "Muley"
tap tap tap knap knap knap...
Gosh Muley, this could become a country song... :lt th
Post by: Muley on November 06, 2016, 01:56:48 PM
"I Be Knapping"
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 06, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 06, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
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Post by: amm1851 on November 06, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
Post by: JStanley on November 06, 2016, 10:35:56 PM
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Post by: Hanshi on November 08, 2016, 12:31:21 PM
Post by: Muley on November 12, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
Post by: JStanley on November 12, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
Thank you JStanley. Check your PM's shortly.
Just wanted to publicly thank Ohio Joe for sending me one of his custom crafted knapping hammers. Y'all are a great bunch of guys!
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 13, 2016, 07:19:47 AM
Post by: rollingb on November 14, 2016, 03:06:50 AM
Quote from: "amm1851"
Actually, I haven't been an active member for some time and now I just do my own thing.Same here, I really enjoyed the AMM when I lived in Wyoming,.... since we moved out here on the plains I've let my membership lapse.
Post by: rollingb on November 14, 2016, 03:10:27 AM
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
Okay, wasn't all that happy with the first knapping hammer I did late last night, so I did another. It looks better to me, but I'll also use the one I made last night. The new one is the top one.Those are down-right cool tools. :)
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Post by: Uncle Russ on November 19, 2016, 02:02:16 PM
A piece of brass with a short handle is all you ever need for a quick "tune-up" on a contrary flint.
I believe that dog will hunt!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: Ohio Joe on November 19, 2016, 02:37:36 PM
Post by: greggholmes on February 13, 2017, 10:11:13 PM
Flintknapping - Part 1 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/j7KLCFu0FhE)
Post by: greggholmes on February 14, 2017, 12:42:05 AM
Flint Knapping UK: Brandon Gun Flint Knapping (http://prehistorics-uk.blogspot.com/2014/08/brandon-gun-flint-knapping.html)
these guys could make a flint in about 5 seconds. amazing
Brandon Flint Knappers 1920's - YouTube (https://youtu.be/QYG0uHbZ7fQ)
Post by: Winter Hawk on February 15, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
~Kees~