Post by: Hood on September 15, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
Thanks!
Post by: doggoner on September 15, 2016, 07:54:47 PM
doggoner
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 15, 2016, 09:26:19 PM
Post by: RobD on September 16, 2016, 05:45:21 AM
Quote from: "doggoner"
Go to an auto parts house and buy a SMALL tube of anti-seize. The brand to buy is whatever they stock. Put some on the threads and screw the plug into place. The plug will come out the next time you want it to. If there is doubt in your mind about this, install the plug, shoot the gun several times and remove the plug to check for ugly on the threads. Reapply some anti-seize on the threads and re-install the plug. You'll find that anti-seize is VERY slick stuff.
doggoner
+1 :bl th up
before firing up a new flinter i'll pull the breech plug and touch hole liner and reinstall with auto store anti-seize lube (permatex). this is excellent insurance that both of those threaded devices will easily part company after years of hard use and mitigation of bp residue that will encourage rusting (yes, those threads WILL be compromised with gunk/rust and be darned near welded shut if not pre treated). if i was a cap lock owner (not! :!: :Doh!
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Post by: Buzzard on September 19, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
Post by: RobD on September 19, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: "Buzzard"
Ordinary gun grease works just fine.
that's a great lube, but you will find too quickly that it's not in the same category, or function, as real anti-seize lube.
most folks have no need to pull breech plugs, but most folks will have a touch hole liner or nipple or clean out screw that will get removed. this is where anti-seize lube will make it easy to remove any of those male threads no matter how badly they've been compromised by bp residue and/or subsequent rust/corrosion. for a few buck$, anti-seize is the better lube, and insurance, to use on threads.
Post by: Uncle Russ on September 27, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
Quote from: "doggoner"Go to an auto parts house and buy a SMALL tube of anti-seize. The brand to buy is whatever they stock. Put some on the threads and screw the plug into place. The plug will come out the next time you want it to. If there is doubt in your mind about this, install the plug, shoot the gun several times and remove the plug to check for ugly on the threads. Reapply some anti-seize on the threads and re-install the plug. You'll find that anti-seize is VERY slick stuff.
doggoner
+1 :bl th up
before firing up a new flinter i'll pull the breech plug and touch hole liner and reinstall with auto store anti-seize lube (permatex). this is excellent insurance that both of those threaded devices will easily part company after years of hard use and mitigation of bp residue that will encourage rusting (yes, those threads WILL be compromised with gunk/rust and be darned near welded shut if not pre treated). if i was a cap lock owner (not! :!: :Doh!
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I thought about this post yesterday!
Yep, this post came to mind when I found a brand "spanking new" liner on my bench that I 'think' is for my Pedersoli Longrifle...looks like me newest task will be getting that old liner out! :Doh! What was I thinking when I put that old one in......
Uncle Russ...
Post by: RobD on September 27, 2016, 03:48:32 PM
i've got that same problem with the tiny slot head DST set screw on one of my rolling block perdersoli's. that screw won't budge, and since it's under the bow of the trigger guard, all screw drivers go in angled and not dead straight. i got 'er flooded with liquid wrench ... and hoping!
Post by: MountainDevil on September 28, 2016, 09:53:23 AM
Post by: petew on October 03, 2016, 10:35:37 PM
Post by: RobD on October 04, 2016, 05:17:23 AM
just checked out the nikal spex - awesome stuff, just ordered some out thru zoro.
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Post by: Uncle Russ on October 04, 2016, 12:20:22 PM
BTW Rob, I got my flashhole liner out without any problems, but the "new one" I found on the bench doesn't have the right threads...no sure why I bought it, or what it does fit, but it ain't the right threads for my Pedersoli...freshened the old one up a bit, added the anti-siege and now I'm good for awhile longer....in fact, visually, I can't see a thing wrong with the old liner.
Uncle Russ...
Post by: RobD on October 04, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
BUT, she's out and cleaned up and sized up and lubed up back in .... time to make thunder, smoke 'n' fire!
Post by: rollingb on October 04, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
i would never use plumber's tape on an ml thread - you want a HIGH TEMP LUBE and not a low temp teflon tape that may overspill or under cover the threadsI dunno,.... that plumber's tape might work just fine on my great-grandson's water pistol! :rotf
just checked out the nikal spex - awesome stuff, just ordered some out thru zoro.
(https://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/Z_o2wvqcpEx_.JPG)
But,.... I agree, the anti-seize would be MUCH better for muzzleloaders.
Post by: Uncle Russ on October 04, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
russ, prolly a usa/metric thread size issue?
BUT, she's out and cleaned up and sized up and lubed up back in .... time to make thunder, smoke 'n' fire! :oops: won't do that no more!
At least I know now that it will come out, easy-peazy too!
I found this at The Possibles Shop. 'bout half-way down the page.
http://possibleshop.com/s-s-flintlock-supplies.html (http://possibleshop.com/s-s-flintlock-supplies.html)
Description / Order No
CVA / Traditions 12-50-94
M5 -.8 Touch Hole Liner
Lyman 12-50-95
M6 -.75 Touch Hole Liner
Pedersoli 12-50-96
M8 -1.25 Touch Hole Liner
1/4-28 Touch Hole Liner
With Screw Driver Slot 12-50-97
5/16-24 Touch Hole Liner
With Screw Driver Slot 12-50-98
1/4-28 Touch Hole Liner
Wrench Type 12-50-99
This just might come in handy if someone is looking, and not sure just what they're looking for.
The best I can tell the new flash hole liner I found on my bench could well be a 5/16-24.
It is obviously new, but I can't find the packaging. It must have come in a bubble-pack, fell out, and I tossed the packing, but I can't remember the stupid thing at all.
Don'tcha just hate when that happens!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: rollingb on October 04, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
Quote from: "RussB"
Quote from: "rfd"russ, prolly a usa/metric thread size issue?That liner would definitely be for a US made gun rather than a Spanish or Italian "import" if you are correct about the threads.
BUT, she's out and cleaned up and sized up and lubed up back in .... time to make thunder, smoke 'n' fire! :oops: won't do that no more!
At least I know now that it will come out, easy-peazy too!
I found this at The Possibles Shop. 'bout half-way down the page.
http://possibleshop.com/s-s-flintlock-supplies.html (http://possibleshop.com/s-s-flintlock-supplies.html)
Description / Order No
CVA / Traditions 12-50-94
M5 -.8 Touch Hole Liner
Lyman 12-50-95
M6 -.75 Touch Hole Liner
Pedersoli 12-50-96
M8 -1.25 Touch Hole Liner
1/4-28 Touch Hole Liner
With Screw Driver Slot 12-50-97
5/16-24 Touch Hole Liner
With Screw Driver Slot 12-50-98
1/4-28 Touch Hole Liner
Wrench Type 12-50-99
This just might come in handy if someone is looking, and not sure just what they're looking for.
The best I can tell the new flash hole liner I found on my bench could well be a 5/16-24.
It is obviously new, but I can't find the packaging. It must have come in a bubble-pack, fell out, and I tossed the packing, but I can't remember the stupid thing at all.
Don'tcha just hate when that happens!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: Uncle Russ on October 04, 2016, 03:22:52 PM
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That liner would definitely be for a US made gun rather than a Spanish or Italian "import" if you are correct about the threads.
My thoughts exactly Rondo!
But....why on earth would I be buying that?
I'm thinking a good deal of ignorance came into play here when that puppy ended up on my bench.Betcha I got it thinking "that looks like it'll fit" forked over a few bucks and took it home....
Still yet, I don't remember it, that's me story and I'm stickin to it!
Uncle Russ...
Post by: rollingb on October 04, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: "RussB"
QuoteThat liner would definitely be for a US made gun rather than a Spanish or Italian "import" if you are correct about the threads.
My thoughts exactly Rondo!
But....why on earth would I be buying that?
:laffing :rt th
Makes it a little easier to get some of these things past the wife when you need an excuse to buy a new muzzleloader.
Post by: Uncle Russ on October 04, 2016, 03:53:55 PM
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I'l bet you bought the liner,... thinking that later you could always buy a rifle to fit it! :rt th :laffingI kinda like the idea now that I have a flash-hole liner, I really do need a rifle to go with it!
Shucks! it's that easy huh?
Uncle Russ...
Post by: rollingb on October 04, 2016, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: "RussB"
QuoteI'l bet you bought the liner,... thinking that later you could always buy a rifle to fit it! :rt th :laffingI kinda like the idea now that I have a flash-hole liner, I really do need a rifle to go with it!
Shucks! it's that easy huh? :laffing
Post by: RobD on October 04, 2016, 04:05:36 PM
Post by: rollingb on October 04, 2016, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: "rfd"
hah! you guys are too much! but i like yer thinking .... hmm, i have a few extra ramrods i made for the 20ga, and a .58 ball mould, and a .54 ball mould - heck, now i need a BUNCH more guns! HAHAHA! does the fun ever end???? :toast :hey-hey:hairy
Post by: MountainDevil on October 04, 2016, 08:54:24 PM
Plumbers tape works amazingly well and is mess free.
Like pappy said about fat girls... Don't knock it till you've tried it.
My flintlock liners get it as well, only they do not get the slight overlap at the end.