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Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Jerry Sine on November 09, 2016, 03:00:27 PM

Title: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Jerry Sine on November 09, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
Not getting instantaneous ignition with my 20ga tulle. Replaced the powder new can fff. I was told to install White
Lightnin vent liner. cannot find one the right size. I need 15/16 x 24. Would appreciate any help
                                                                                   Thanks      Jerry
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Bigsmoke on November 09, 2016, 05:43:09 PM
Probably contacting the maker, Jim Chambers, would be the best idea for that.
flintlocks.com
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: rollingb on November 09, 2016, 05:55:20 PM
You'll have to re-drill and re-tap to 5/16-32 threads that fit only the White Lightening liner,......      Vent, Touch Hole Liner complete kit with drill & tap, 5/16-32 thread, stainless steel, White Lightnin' - Track of the Wolf  (https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/960/1/THL-W5S-KIT)
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: rollingb on November 09, 2016, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
Probably contacting the maker, Jim Chambers, would be the best idea for that.
flintlocks.com
The last I knew, chambers only offered the 5/16-32 thread liner,... and once you drill and tap for his liner, you'll find no other liner that will fit.
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Jerry Sine on November 09, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Ok thanks I will contact Jim Chambers
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Mike Brooks on November 10, 2016, 07:09:25 AM
He makes 3 sizes, 1/4", 5/16" and 3/8". I almost universally use 5/16".
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: rollingb on November 10, 2016, 07:21:04 AM
Quote from: "Mike Brooks"
He makes 3 sizes, 1/4", 5/16" and 3/8". I almost universally use 5/16".
Thanks for the info.  :rt th
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: RobD on November 12, 2016, 09:10:39 AM
and this is why a 5/16x24 thread can be drilled out and re-tapped for a 5/16x32 thread ... just a skotch larger for the 32 thread size.  ain't we lucky?  :bl th up

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Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: waksupi on February 03, 2017, 09:48:15 AM
When I'm getting slow ignition, or poor accuracy in a smoothbore, first thing to do is to scrape the breech face. Generally cures the problem. White Lighting liners are okay, but no better than any other, and I don't like to proprietary thread size. As was mentioned, if you need to replace, you are stuck with that size. If they become no longer available, that means going to a machine shop to have replacements made.
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Jerry Sine on February 04, 2017, 07:43:23 AM
Thanks Waksupi. I will try that
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Keb on February 04, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
I always start out using a 1/4" liner. I can go to 5/16" if I need to. BTW, I always use standard UNF threads. 1/4-28, 5/16-24, etc.
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 04, 2017, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: "droptinebuck"
Not getting instantaneous ignition with my 20ga tulle. Replaced the powder new can fff. I was told to install White
Lightnin vent liner. cannot find one the right size. I need 15/16 x 24. Would appreciate any help
                                                                                   Thanks      Jerry

Probably a little late to the show - however, did you try removing the vent liner (I'm guessing it is coned) and polishing the inside of the cone? I've done this a couple of times with a q-tip and 00004 steel wool - seems to help.  :shake

Not saying this is the problem, but it's worth a try.
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: amm1851 on February 05, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
Quote from: "waksupi"
When I'm getting slow ignition, or poor accuracy in a smoothbore, first thing to do is to scrape the breech face. Generally cures the problem. White Lighting liners are okay, but no better than any other, and I don't like to proprietary thread size. As was mentioned, if you need to replace, you are stuck with that size. If they become no longer available, that means going to a machine shop to have replacements made.

I  have had the same experience with my trade gun. As soon as I get a hangfire or flash in the pan,  I put on my breech scraper and that usually takes care of it. I can usually get 10 to 15 shots in before the fouling builds up. And that is with Elephant powder,  which is dirty stuff. With Goex, I can get twice as many shots in before I have to scrape.
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: Jerry Sine on February 05, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
What is a breech scraper and where do you get one?
Title: Re: Looking for Vent Torch Liner
Post by: rollingb on February 05, 2017, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: "droptinebuck"
What is a breech scraper and where do you get one?
Here you go,......  :rt th
   Search - Track of the Wolf  (https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Search.aspx?search=breech%20scrapers)