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Craftsmanship => Gun Building and Repair => Topic started by: Swamppanther on November 10, 2016, 11:21:24 AM

Title: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on November 10, 2016, 11:21:24 AM

Went to the range to check/set sights for opening weekend and the "Set Triggers" part not working.
I can fire with the front trigger but when I pull the set/rear trigger nothing. Can someone tell me the
correct order - which screw to turn first etc. I did not take apart the trigger assembly prior to the problem
with it. I see nothing broken. The  second pic show the two screws I guess you have to work with.
I just don't know the order to do it. Thanks for any help. The SQUIRRELS are waiting!

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: rollingb on November 10, 2016, 11:31:32 AM

Welcome to our TMA forum Swamppanther.  
The screw between the 2 triggers is the "set-screw" and adjusts the amount of poundage of the front trigger-pull,..... screw clock-wise to lighten the pull and counter-clockwise to increase the poundage. If it's screwed "in" too far, the "set" won't hold.

The rear screw adjusts the tension of the set-spring and will probably never need adjusting.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on November 11, 2016, 12:43:11 PM

Thanks for your help. I still could not get to work and finally went to Traditions web site  and looked at the exploded parts view.
I guess last spring when I cleaned it to put away I must have lost a part. The front trigger spring is missing. Ordered on line and
will see if that does it. Oh well I will have to go with the Marlin 25N/BSA 3x9 till it gets in and back to black powder.
Seems like a good mast crop this year in South/Southwest Florida. Acorns all over the place. Lots of squirrels if first two
times out are an indication. If they would just sit still instead running for the nearest Cabbage/Queen palm and hiding.
If I could shoot they really would be in trouble. Most of the WMA'S have good squirrel/small game hunting.
That Crockett .32 is a beauty and shoots good too.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32 Still not working
Post by: Swamppanther on November 29, 2016, 03:12:43 PM

Received the front trigger spring from traditions and installed it (???).
Not much info on how to. Not sure if this is correct. Still not working and
spring not very secure (falls out) I can't tell that the spring is actually
doing anything no matter how much adjustment (in or out) made on screw.
Top pic is installation (??) bottom is assembly and spring.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: rollingb on November 29, 2016, 03:50:56 PM

A straight-down picture of your trigger mechanism ,... and a straight-sideways picture, plus a picture of the spring itself would be helpful.  :rt th

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on November 30, 2016, 12:22:21 PM

Here a shot from side and looking down and spring by itself

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: rollingb on November 30, 2016, 12:59:56 PM

I'm sorry Swamppanther, I'm not sure what to tell you,... I don't have any experience with that particular trigger mechanism, or even seen one  before.
I do know that there shouldn't be any "floating" parts to lose, or fall out accidentally.  :rt th

I'm sorry I can't be of more help.  
rollingb

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 30, 2016, 05:26:58 PM

The function of the little trigger spring is to hold the front trigger bar down so it can be set.
I don't think you have it in right.

Here is an explanation from Track on how it works.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/pdfs/cat ... ge_352.pdf (https://www.trackofthewolf.com/pdfs/catalog/page_352.pdf)

More;

Print Page - Cant get double set triggers to work on CVA Hawken Kit gun. (http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=35378.0)

If you look down this page you can see a CVA set trigger that shows a bent front spring with tension on it. Maybe you don't have it in the right slot.

OOPs the link didn't work.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: rollingb on November 30, 2016, 06:01:11 PM

Eric Krewson,.... that is some good info explaining CVA/Traditions trigger mechanisms.  

Thanks,
rollingb

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: prairie dog on December 01, 2016, 05:35:40 PM

In your top photo, you have the long end of the spring under the trigger bar.  Move it up into the notch just above that.  Should work then.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on April 03, 2017, 11:49:40 AM

Spring does not appear to be long enough. Tried that but will not stay - Dropped out.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Hanshi on April 03, 2017, 05:10:03 PM

Spring could be broken.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on April 10, 2017, 09:32:34 AM

Thanks to our friends at logcabinshop.com I finally found pics that show correct trigger spring and placement.
Looks like I have some "bending" to try. See previous and attached photos.  If that doesn't work I will order
a drop in set trigger assembly from them. I will advise what happens.

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 10, 2017, 10:32:21 PM

My Deer Creek (Old CVA Mountain Rifle parts) has the same problem.  I have lost several of those springs, and finally decided that, what the heck, it shoots just fine with the front trigger.  I dry fire every evening for practice and just to fondle my sweetie and the parts have worn in so the trigger pull is actually quite light.  Lighter than on my T-C single trigger with L&R lock.  I recently put a different trigger guard on so there is more room for my fingers, and it negates the rear trigger so now it is also a single trigger rifle.

~WH~

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Swamppanther on April 22, 2017, 11:30:16 AM

Well I think I got it!! Seems to work so put back together and wiped down with oily patch. Put it in safe.
Next time I go to range will give it a try. I think next time instead of going to Traditions I will just look on line
for a roll or length of spring steel wire and do it my self. What they sent should have been bit longer, better designed
and ready to use . 
   

Title: Re: Set Trigger on Crockett .32
Post by: Hanshi on April 22, 2017, 12:55:05 PM

I have a nice little rifle that apparently developed the same problem as your Crockett.  From the beginning the set trigger pull was extraordinarily light; resulting in more than one firing before I was quite ready.  I took the trigger out in hopes of a fix.  Adjusting the trigger screw didn't help.  The little wire spring popped out.  I put it back in and replaced the assembly back in the rifle.  Now the set trigger was pretty much useless but the front, unset trigger was crisp and light.  I use this rifle as a target rifle as it's super accurate and easy to shoot.