Traditional Muzzleloading Association

Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Hood on November 04, 2017, 09:00:48 PM

Title: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hood on November 04, 2017, 09:00:48 PM
Im wanting a quick style reloader for my fowler. Something like the plastic ones where the ball, patch, and powder are all together. But I dont believe they make them for a. 62 cal. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Winter Hawk on November 04, 2017, 09:41:04 PM
We used to use film canisters, but with the demise of film photography those are no longer available.  For my rifle I use small plastic medicine vials and a bullet board for patched ball.  Taping a couple of them together, one for a powder charge and the other for your shot charge, with maybe your wads over top of the shot?  Hopefully someone with more experience with shotguns will come along with their ideas....

~Kees~
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: dmarsh on November 05, 2017, 08:07:00 AM
I use the 3rd one down for my fowler.   :hairy

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/153/1

Dave
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hood on November 05, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Im looking for one to use with a patched round ball like what Dave suggested, but Im guessing it would be too large for that.  I shoot a. 62 cal.
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hawken on November 05, 2017, 12:08:27 PM
PVC tubing! Cap both ends! :hairy
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: amm1851 on November 05, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Ball loading block?
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hawken on November 05, 2017, 01:47:09 PM
Ball loading block?

Don't like 'em! Too easy to carry grit/grime!
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hood on November 05, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
PVC sounds good, but I cant find the right size.
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hawken on November 05, 2017, 05:57:53 PM
PVC sounds good, but I cant find the right size.

Should be readily available at any hardware/plumbing store! :toast
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: amm1851 on November 05, 2017, 09:03:59 PM
Ball loading block?

Don't like 'em! Too easy to carry grit/grime!

Really? Never happened to mine. But , YMMV!   :)
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: AxelP on November 06, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Practice, practice, practice.

A traditional "speed loader" for a smoothbore is the military paper cartridge. If you are gonna shoot/hunt with a traditional muzzleloader, why load it in a non-traditional manner? Seems contrary to the why of traditional muzzle loading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYUPaX-F_nA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BEg-xdabHs
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hanshi on November 06, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
If I ever think I need speed with my muzzleloader, I'll attach a "bump stock".  :hairy
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Hawken on November 06, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
If I ever think I need speed with my muzzleloader, I'll attach a "bump stock".  :hairy

At 77....I don't rush!

Time goes by quick enough....at it's own pace!! :o :o
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: Uncle Russ on November 06, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
If I ever think I need speed with my muzzleloader, I'll attach a "bump stock".  :hairy

 :Doh!  :laffing :laffing :laffing :applaud :lol sign

Uncle Russ...
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: amm1851 on November 06, 2017, 04:48:36 PM
I think most of us would agree that with traditional muzzleloaders,  making the first shot count is more important than a quick second shot.   :bl th up
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: AxelP on November 06, 2017, 06:10:08 PM
First shot accuracy is important today as it was back them... BUT what if you were defending yourself back in the day? Being able to reload quickly and efficiently is the sign of a skilled shooter/warrior and was essential for survival. It was also one of the reasons the military and militia used paper cartridges. A humane ethical hunter also finds a use for speedy reloads.

The old dead guys were pretty fast at reloading when they needed to be. Of course, range shooting does not require speed-- actually speed might be dangerous on the crowded shooting line and also ruin accuracy. But speed was a natural acquired skill and important for survival and humane ethical hunting back in the day-- and today as well.

Build your loading skills just like you do your other historic woodscraft. 
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: amm1851 on November 06, 2017, 08:46:32 PM
First shot accuracy is important today as it was back them... BUT what if you were defending yourself back in the day? Being able to reload quickly and efficiently is the sign of a skilled shooter/warrior and was essential for survival. It was also one of the reasons the military and militia used paper cartridges. A humane ethical hunter also finds a use for speedy reloads.

The old dead guys were pretty fast at reloading when they needed to be. Of course, range shooting does not require speed-- actually speed might be dangerous on the crowded shooting line and also ruin accuracy. But speed was a natural acquired skill and important for survival and humane ethical hunting back in the day-- and today as well.

Build your loading skills just like you do your other historic woodscraft.
Absolutely. Don Bruton has some good information about fast reloading on his DVD.
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: dmarsh on November 07, 2017, 07:52:47 AM
Completely agree on making the first shot count.  Also speed is not required.  I hunt from a tree stand and generally stay put until I shoot a deer or it gets dark so I am up there dawn to dusk.  That said I need to carry a lot of stuff like lunch, water and snacks as well as extra warm clothes.  So I find it easier to take 2 or 3 speed loaders ready to go so I don't need a shooting bag or powder horn.  I only carry my small flat priming horn with my 4F in it.  I have no desire to carry a 50lb pack around.   :laffing  Never had a problem and have not needed a "speedy" second shot.   :toast

Dave
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: prairie dog on November 07, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
When i hunt spring turkey with the smooth bore I carry one extra pre-measured shot charge in a paper coin roll with ends folded and stapled.  It's in the shooting bag.
Title: Re: Quick Reloaders
Post by: AxelP on November 07, 2017, 04:59:05 PM
I try and carry what would historically match the gun I have with me. The idea of merging modern techniques or methods seems contrary to why I enjoy old technology. The old way works just fine. I don't recall weight ever being much of an issue. I'd guess my gear weighs less than 10 lbs not counting the gun. As I get older I just walk slower and thats better for hunting anyways.