Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: Hylander on November 06, 2017, 09:10:01 PM
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New guy again,
What is a good bag and where is a good place to purchase from.
Thanks
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I have one from “The Leatherman “. Not the multi tool folks. Great product.
http://www.accu-riser.com/categories/Muzzleloading-Possibles-Bags-%252d-Hunting-bags/
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Ditto on the Leatherman. His stuff is great but if it is a bit spendy for you try October Country.
http://www.octobercountry.com/categories/Possible-Bags/
IronHand
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If you're at all handy, you could make your own.
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If you're at all handy, you could make your own.
I bought a purse kit from Tandy and it has been doing well for me since 1987. I've made modifications to it over the years, most recently taking it apart and adding a leather divider to make two compartments.
~Kees~
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I would ditto the suggestion about October Country.
Great selection of styles and priced affordably.
Of course, I might be a little bit prejudiced about them, but still an honest recommendation.
The Leatherman is also an excellent choice. Quality wise, you cannot go wrong with either of them.
John
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I have two from the Leather man that I really do like.
I've also made four, one of self tanned doe skin, two from com. tanned leather, and one of canvas.
The Leather Man bags are worth the money if you want the best.
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shooting bags and possible pouches are quite easy to make outta suitable leather or even canvas. i always recommend making as many accoutrements as possible, from bags to horns to rods to ball boards, knife handles, and even doing up kit assembled guns. it gives one purpose, learning, and a goodly sense of accomplishment ... and sometimes it also saves dollar$.
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make up or copy a pattern, cut out the pieces of 3oz to 5oz leather ...
(https://i.imgur.com/MCV2Eat.jpg)
layout out and prick the edges for sewing ...
(https://i.imgur.com/qnm3TpU.jpg)
sew the bag pieces together inside out - here i'm using a dual needle saddle stitch ...
(https://i.imgur.com/mwq7YzO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gPpJBPq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eNgFJSX.jpg)
then pull the bag "outside in" and voila! ...
(https://i.imgur.com/Mej0eHA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tnOTABQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kM4vHKs.jpg)
all dressed up for the party, er, hunt ...
(https://i.imgur.com/j6VH6Ig.jpg)
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thanks for the suggestions.
Rob, you didn't happen to make and extra, Did Ya' ;)
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thanks for the suggestions.
Rob, you didn't happen to make and extra, Did Ya' ;)
:laffing :*: :wave
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I live near a Tandy store so I may just buy the stuff and try my hand at it.
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go for it!
the stitching doesn't hafta be as intense and close as what i did above. a simple overhand stitch goes much faster, is easier and does the same job. it's just a simple bag, and most of the remaining examples of 18th century shooting bags were just that - simple and small.
the weight of the leather only matters for how easy it'll be to stitch up. 4oz is plenty and will be stiff enuf for the straps. a half side (10-13 sq. ft.) is perfect, but smaller will work fine too because straps can be stitched together from shorter pieces. anything you make will be as "period correct" as it comes because there weren't no tandy stores back in the 17 or 18 hundreds.
make up a pattern from some stiff paper or light cardboard (free post office boxes 8) ) - a front, a back with front flap, a tapered side piece, and a some 1" to 1-1/2" wide pieces to make the strap. for sewing up, i use that synthetic sinew (waxed polyester), but any stout thread will do just fine, along with a large needle. if the leather is thin, the needle might poke through it with the aid of pliers, if not the leather edges will need to get pricked or punched for the thread holes and a simple nail and hammer does the job.
now that yer admiring that new bag ya built, time to make a simple powder horn. :bl th up
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http://www.crazycrow.com/possibles-bags
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Here’s another source.
http://www.greybearleather.com/shooting-bags/
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I can make you one. Or help you make one yourself.
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If you live near a Tandy leather then go. They have several handbag kits that will work for you and the bag will mean more to you if you make it yourself. Enjoy.
IronHand
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Spotted Bull,
Thanks for the offer, I am going to visit Tandy on Monday.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Right off I know I will need leather, sinew or thread, needles and ?.
I need specifics
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*supple* leather in the 3-4oz range is what i recommend. before acquiring the leather, get a pattern drawn up for the front, back, flap, sides, (and possible strap, which could be a separate piece of leather or made from pieces of leather). a large needle, some stout thread (carpet thread is fine, so is synthetic sinew, and even bowstring fiber). if the leather is extra soft and supple, working the needle thru it can be done with a pair of pliers and nothing else needed. for stiffer leather, you'll need something to prick holes in the leather, which could be as simple as a hammer and nail, or a punch.
that's the pouch basics - proper leather, large needle, heavy thread, pliers, and maybe a hammer and nail punch. one can get lots fancier, but in truth folks back in the day did this themselves and the vast majority weren't artists and so their creations were at least a tad crude but sturdy and durable. dat's where it's at.
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Thanks Rob.
I have some sinew, black thread, hole punch, leather punch.
Two of the hole punch markers that roll.
What type leather for say ball bags.
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supple leather (like 2oz glove leather) is easiest for me to work with for stitching and for flipping the bag inside out when done. i make ball bagw with big wide mouths so my hand can get in there. i like to roll the top of the bag to make it half height and sit in the bottom of the shooting pouch for easiest ball retrieval. lately i've been using ball boards much more often, however.
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I believe Tandy (and maybe others) refer to the type of leather for a shooting bag as blacksmith sides. Has good body, sometimes interesting brands, slightly oily finish. The stuff is virtually indestructible for bag use and it looks good. That is what all of my shooting bags have been made of. As was the bag that Rob showed. If you can get a piece with the tannery edge on it, you will have a one of a kind looking bag, as no two are ever the same.
Some merchants refer to this type of leather as "Oil Tanned" but it's not really. More like an oil finish chrome tan leather.
Good stuff.
John
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i've used a coupla half sides of crazy crow leather for bags and side/back quivers - it's a bit on the heavy side, but it's workable if yer stitching technique is good and ya have the right tools.
it's what i used for my last bag, w/straps, patch knife sheath, and turn screw pocket ....
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http://www.crazycrow.com/oil-tanned-leather/oil-tanned-blacksmith-half-sides-10-25-sf
(http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/1610-478-050-900x900_540x540.jpg)
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What kind of gun and horn do you have? You might want to explore what bag will best fit the time and location your gun and horn fits into.
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veg tan is actually more historically correct and can be more easily manipulated and sewn in my opinion.
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Glad you mentioned that, Spotted Bull. I was wondering myself about the veg tan. Thanks for the info. :shake
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New guy again,
What is a good bag and where is a good place to purchase from.
Thanks
Crazy Crow Trading Post is having a Holiday sale (until Dec 31st), with several different possibles bags included.
Regularly priced bags:
http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CCTP&Category_Code=800-100-000&Product_Code=&Search=&Sort_By=disp_order&Per_Page=-1
Sale bags:
http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CCTP&Category_Code=100-000-100&Product_Code=&Search=&Sort_By=disp_order&Per_Page=-1
(http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-012-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-011-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-016-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/4524-203-004-900x900_255x255.jpg)
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New guy again,
What is a good bag and where is a good place to purchase from.
Thanks
Crazy Crow Trading Post is having a Holiday sale (until Dec 31st), with several different possibles bags included.
Regularly priced bags:
http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CCTP&Category_Code=800-100-000&Product_Code=&Search=&Sort_By=disp_order&Per_Page=-1
Sale bags:
http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CCTP&Category_Code=100-000-100&Product_Code=&Search=&Sort_By=disp_order&Per_Page=-1
(http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-012-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-011-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-016-900x900_255x255.jpg) (http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/4524-203-004-900x900_255x255.jpg)
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I like this one from Crazy Crow, but I don't think it's one of the choices;
Deluxe Beavertail Shooter's Bag
Product No. 4524-201-015
$39.60 Normally: $49.50
20% off until 12/31/17 - SAVE
In Stock
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Crazy Crow Trading Post is having a Holiday sale (until Dec 31st), with several different possibles bags included.
Regularly priced bags:
http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CCTP&Category_Code=800-100-000&Product_Code=&Search=&Sort_By=disp_order&Per_Page=-1
I like this one from Crazy Crow, but I don't think it's one of the choices;
Deluxe Beavertail Shooter's Bag
Product No. 4524-201-015
$39.60 Normally: $49.50
20% off until 12/31/17 - SAVE
In Stock
It was in the link I posted earlier. :toast
(http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/graphics/4524-201-015-900x900_540x540.jpg)
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