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Craftsmanship => Accoutrements => Topic started by: Puffer on November 18, 2019, 12:21:07 PM

Title: My Mocs
Post by: Puffer on November 18, 2019, 12:21:07 PM
These are the Mocs I wear. ---French Canadian Boot - Solier de Boeuf
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Oldetexian on November 18, 2019, 02:20:33 PM
 :hairy Looking good, Puffer. I like the leather gaitors. They are not part of the mocs, are they?
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Puffer on November 18, 2019, 03:07:48 PM
:hairy Looking good, Puffer. I like the leather gaitors. They are not part of the mocs, are they?

Actually what you are calling "gaiters" (French -
jambière =  leg shield)  are a part of the "Boots" :wave

The "old Arrow Moc Co. offered these boots (15 years ago for over $200.00  :o) Sooo = I bought a pair of their "plain low 1/4 mocs (about $100.00) & sewed on the tops etc (using an old elk hide  :bl th up using the diagram (pic 3)

Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Winter Hawk on November 19, 2019, 09:35:07 AM
Splendid!  I also thought they were gaiters with mocs; thank you for the clarification.  They look much more authentic than my Minnetonka high top "boots"!  :laffing

~Kees~
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: rollingb on November 19, 2019, 11:19:21 AM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Oldetexian on November 19, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have a "like new" pair of the Dyer Mocs that I got as part of a trade over 25 years ago. That's what prompted my quest to Puffer. His Mocs looked just like mine, but I thought the tops might be gaitors...nice to know I have such"high class" footware... :lol sign
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Puffer on November 19, 2019, 06:04:04 PM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have a "like new" pair of the Dyer Mocs that I got as part of a trade over 25 years ago. That's what prompted my quest to Puffer. His Mocs looked just like mine, but I thought the tops might be gaitors...nice to know I have such"high class" footware... :lol sign
:bl th up :applaud
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Uncle Russ on November 19, 2019, 06:47:16 PM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have to say that $326.00 is a mite spendy, IMHO   :bow

I will also tell you guys that I have seen Puffer in his "outfit", and what you see in the picture is very nicely done in real life.

The wrap-tie was / is still popular throughout the Southwest, emulating the footwear of the Mescalero Apache Indians.
In fact, they still wear this today around the Taos area of New Mexico.
   
I use the "Tops" of Minnetonka boots as gaiters, or whatever Puffer calls 'em, and I've used them for years.
(I use to have an old picture, but I can't find it on this computer...it may have been on Photobucket before it went South on me.)


Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: rollingb on November 19, 2019, 06:59:32 PM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have to say that $326.00 is a mite spendy, IMHO   :bow

I will also tell you guys that I have seen Puffer in his "outfit", and what you see in the picture is very nicely done in real life.

The wrap-tie was / is still popular throughout the Southwest, emulating the footwear of the Mescalero Apache Indians.
In fact, they still wear this today around the Taos area of New Mexico.
   
I use the "Tops" of Minnetonka boots as gaiters, or whatever Puffer calls 'em, and I've used them for years.
(I use to have an old picture, but I can't find it on this computer...it may have been on Photobucket before it went South on me.)

I fully agree,.... can you imagine how many pairs of authentic style center-seam, side-seam, and pucker-toe mocs, you can make with $326.00 worth of tanned elk skin?  :bl th up :toast :*:
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: Oldetexian on November 20, 2019, 08:49:36 AM
I fully agree,.... can you imagine how many pairs of authentic style center-seam, side-seam, and pucker-toe mocs, you can make with $326.00 worth of tanned elk skin?  :bl th up :toast :*:
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 :lol sign :lol sign ABSOLUTELY!
A fellar could get rich making them mocs and selling 'em for half what Dyers wants fur them...but then, Dyers might have sumthin special in their mocs... :lol sign :lol sign
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: BEAVERMAN on November 20, 2019, 10:05:40 AM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have to say that $326.00 is a mite spendy, IMHO   :bow

I will also tell you guys that I have seen Puffer in his "outfit", and what you see in the picture is very nicely done in real life.

The wrap-tie was / is still popular throughout the Southwest, emulating the footwear of the Mescalero Apache Indians.
In fact, they still wear this today around the Taos area of New Mexico.
   
I use the "Tops" of Minnetonka boots as gaiters, or whatever Puffer calls 'em, and I've used them for years.
(I use to have an old picture, but I can't find it on this computer...it may have been on Photobucket before it went South on me.)

I fully agree,.... can you imagine how many pairs of authentic style center-seam, side-seam, and pucker-toe mocs, you can make with $326.00 worth of tanned elk skin?  :bl th up :toast :*:

Maybe so Rondo, but you cant walk in soft sole mocs on gravel and rocks all day without your feet paying for it, those old arrow mocs were double soled and wear like iron,  15 years ago a pair of arrow canoe mocs, (like the ones Jack has on) could be had for 85 to 90 bucs!  I bought 2 pair, still have them, wore took 8 years to wear through the outer sole on the first pair and that was wearing them every day as slippers and around the house shoes, too bad arrow went under!
Title: Re: My Mocs
Post by: rollingb on November 20, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Those mocs look like the ones Carl Dyers has sold for many, many, years.  :)
https://www.carldyers.com/moccasin-styles/indian-moccasin/

That particular modern style of moccasin from Dyers is now priced at $326.00 (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/big-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

I have to say that $326.00 is a mite spendy, IMHO   :bow

I will also tell you guys that I have seen Puffer in his "outfit", and what you see in the picture is very nicely done in real life.

The wrap-tie was / is still popular throughout the Southwest, emulating the footwear of the Mescalero Apache Indians.
In fact, they still wear this today around the Taos area of New Mexico.
   
I use the "Tops" of Minnetonka boots as gaiters, or whatever Puffer calls 'em, and I've used them for years.
(I use to have an old picture, but I can't find it on this computer...it may have been on Photobucket before it went South on me.)

I fully agree,.... can you imagine how many pairs of authentic style center-seam, side-seam, and pucker-toe mocs, you can make with $326.00 worth of tanned elk skin?  :bl th up :toast :*:

Maybe so Rondo, but you cant walk in soft sole mocs on gravel and rocks all day without your feet paying for it, those old arrow mocs were double soled and wear like iron,  15 years ago a pair of arrow canoe mocs, (like the ones Jack has on) could be had for 85 to 90 bucs!  I bought 2 pair, still have them, wore took 8 years to wear through the outer sole on the first pair and that was wearing them every day as slippers and around the house shoes, too bad arrow went under!

I use thick buffalo hide to make outer, and inner, soles for my center-seams mocs, and as soon as a hole wears through one of them I re-sole both mocs.

My center-seam mocs have lasted for more than 20 years that way with no sign of giving up any time soon. The beauty of this is the old outer soles can be taken off and used as a pattern to make new ones, and they're historically correct and cheap. :bl th up

I've never had to replace the inner soles yet.  :)

If I get my mocs wet, I take the inner soles out until the outer's are dry then put'em back in, works great.  :toast :*: