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Craftsmanship => Gun Building and Repair => Topic started by: Nessmuk on September 11, 2024, 12:34:40 PM

Title: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Nessmuk on September 11, 2024, 12:34:40 PM
Here's my Cherry stock with a single coat of cherry stain.  Too Light, Too Red or Too dark?
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Nessmuk on September 11, 2024, 12:39:18 PM
And where the heck did the Permalyn go? Even The Permalyn website is out!!
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: dmarsh on September 11, 2024, 01:47:43 PM
I am going to try J.D. Beck's oil.  I have heard some good things about it.  And the fowler color looks great.

https://beckflintlocks.com/shop :bigsmile:
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: BEAVERMAN on September 11, 2024, 02:15:54 PM
Looks just right to me, don't forget it will darken over time,what did you stain it with?
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: No Powder on September 11, 2024, 05:09:46 PM
 :hairy   :bl th up :yessir: :applaud
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Nessmuk on September 11, 2024, 07:09:06 PM
I stained it with  Laurel Mountain Forge Antique Cherry stain. I checked out Beck's Oil and Wax on Dave's recommendation , I ordered some.
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: BEAVERMAN on September 11, 2024, 08:05:54 PM
 :hairy
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: KDubs on September 12, 2024, 08:02:32 AM
I didn't stain my cherry stock and it's darkening nicely.
 Yours has a head start. Looks good .
 Can't wait to see some oil on that gal'.
 Can I have that flag when you don't want it anymore??
Kevin
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: No Powder on September 12, 2024, 09:07:13 AM
 I thought you flew the coop Kevin. Good to hear from you. By the way, you and Mark have good taste when you chose cherry for your muzzleloaders.
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Nessmuk on September 12, 2024, 10:49:33 AM
Thanks, Guys. As for the flag, I might leave it to you in my will. just don't count on collecting it anytime soon.  :laffing :laffing :laffing :laffing :laffing :laffing :laffing
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler BLACKING the barrel
Post by: Nessmuk on October 22, 2024, 12:22:06 PM
I've got a Question, guys. I'm using "TOTW"s Tru-brown on the Fowler's barrel and it's browning very slowly. Reading the instructions to see if I could speed it up, I see that If I hit it with boiling water it will turn black and that's permanent. Has anyone ever tried this?
I'm using the J.D. Becks Oil and Finishing wax on the stock and I'm thinking a black barrel would look good with it.
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler BLACKING the barrel
Post by: Bigsmoke on October 22, 2024, 05:36:54 PM
I've got a Question, guys. I'm using "TOTW"s Tru-brown on the Fowler's barrel and it's browning very slowly. Reading the instructions to see if I could speed it up, I see that If I hit it with boiling water it will turn black and that's permanent. Has anyone ever tried this?
I'm using the J.D. Becks Oil and Finishing wax on the stock and I'm thinking a black barrel would look good with it.

When I used to own Ol' Thunder, we made a browning solution.  I would guess that Track's stuff is about the same composition as ours was.  And to answer the question, yes, more than likely it will.  Ours turned a bluish black in a hot water bath, and I am talking hot, hot water.  Make sure you have the metal finished to the darkness you want before you give it a bath.  If you want to speed up the process a bit, put it in a sweat box.
Have fun with the sorcery.  And do wear gloves when you are working with that stuff.  Nitric acid, mercuric chloride and other fun stuff is not the stuff that makes a good salad dressing.
John
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Winter Hawk on October 25, 2024, 03:14:14 PM
I've done that with Laurel Mountain Forge browning solution and it came out very nice on the Hodgepodge rifle.  Go to their website and download the instructions for browning, it is in there.  I made a tank from 4" schedule 40 PVC with a couple of end caps glued on, after cutting about 1/3 of the length away for a slot to put the barrel through.  It's been holding up very well, much better than the cold bluing I've used before.

Even LMF browning takes time.  The first 5 or 6 coats don't seem to do much but then it starts going faster.  If you have polished the metal it will take longer, may not even work.  It needs to be sanded to a matte finish on the bare metal if you want browning to go faster.  Those first few coats start the rusting process which roughens up the surface so it can really take off.  However, having the metal smoother does give a glossier final finish.

~Kees~
Title: Re: Kibler 20 Ga. Fowler
Post by: Hank in WV on October 25, 2024, 06:17:10 PM
I never finish my barrels past the draw-file stage. It will take a nice brown.