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Traditional Firearms => Flintlock Pistols => Topic started by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 02:13:18 PM

Title: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 02:13:18 PM

I just picked up a couple of flintlock pistols. First question, one of the locks is marked on the backside of the plate,  L S that are in two interlocking squares. The pistols look like twins but one is .50 and one is .45. Both are stocked in curly maple. These appear to be better quality kit guns. Other notes; same tin nose cap on both, same trigger and guard, same shape to the stocks same entry thimble. Until I get pictures posted, does the L S ring a bell to anyone? They really look Pedersoli (the locks) but are not marked as such.
Pictures soon.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 06:37:08 PM

.45 and .50

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 06:39:53 PM

a few more

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 06:40:51 PM

Does anyone recognize this kit? The pan shape and size is just like my Pedersoli .

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on December 31, 2012, 07:48:13 PM

The back side of the other lock has an S with 1265 underneath it. Are these large silers?
Maybe they are not kits?

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: RiverCat on December 31, 2012, 09:25:21 PM

Sorry I can`t help ya ID em, but they`re nice looking pistols.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: Hank in WV on December 31, 2012, 09:59:42 PM

My guess is your right about them being small siler locks. I'm thinking they are scratch built and not kits. Some pretty good looking handguns ya got.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: gunmaker on January 01, 2013, 12:30:59 AM

good lookin pistols, an not fired much by look of frizzen.  I compared your lock to one a my small siler flint,  looks to be same lock...scratch built maybe.......Tom

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on January 01, 2013, 12:37:03 AM

Thank you,could you tell me the length of the large or small siler lock plate please.
They both are unfired and still have cosmoline on the locks. And neither has sites,front or rear. The .45  appears to be coned at the muzzle.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: Hank in WV on January 01, 2013, 05:46:29 AM

Lg= 5 5/16x 15/16
Sm=4 3/4x 7/8

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: Hanshi on January 01, 2013, 12:36:12 PM

Those are beautiful pistols and yes they are Siler locks.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on January 01, 2013, 03:08:42 PM

Thank you Hank, they appear to be small Silers. Can't wait to try them out, but I need to get some sites put on them both.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: trent/OH on January 01, 2013, 09:14:56 PM

I gotta ask, just in case they were a bargain, how much did 2 great looking pistols cost you? Don't be bashful, I'm sitting down.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: ridjrunr on January 03, 2013, 11:03:08 AM

Trent,yes I am bashful, I traded 2 laying hens and 1 duck at an estate sale (kind of). Both pistols need work, bad flash hole to pan alignment. One, the flash hole is above center and the lock is tipped up. The other has the flash hole on center but the lock is tipped up on it as well. Also one of the top jaw screws was bent to the point that I could not turn it out,so I cut that screw in half and ordered one this morning. However, I'll probably try fireing them just so I know I tried. All parts appear to be high quality ,for the fowl involved I'm not gonna complain. The only other booger is I missed an original 45-70 and pepper box.

Title: Re: Lock identification
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 03, 2013, 06:03:01 PM

 2 Hens a layin, I Duck a quackin, and a Partridge in a Pear tree.......

Ridj, old friend, you've had waaay too much Christmas.

But you do have a really nice set of Pistols.

Uncle Russ...