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Traditional Firearms => Flintlock Long Guns => Topic started by: RobD on February 08, 2017, 06:43:37 PM

Title: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 08, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
a few months back i commissioned jackie brown to build me a po' boy barn gun smoothbore in 20ga/.62 bore.  a very very plain long gun, with plain maple stock, and the only furniture in iron being a pair of rod thimbles and trigger guard - no muzzle cap, entry pipe, or butt plate.   the OTR 42" barrel and all the iron is left as-is, no browning or bluing.  the lock is an L&R queen anne, the trigger is of jackie's making and the touch hole liner is a chamber's white lightening.  this is as no-frills a long gun as one can get, but with good components and wood.  total weight is 6lbs 15ozs.

i wrapped a new english black flint i leather and she sparks quite nicely, as expected.

the cost of this gun, to my door, was more than fair, and a far better bargain than some of the "better" offshore guns from investarms and pedersoli.

now to take it all apart, whisker the wood, LMF stain,TOTW linseed oil, load and shoot it.  lots more to come with all that, for sure.

(http://i.imgur.com/tEmVpJO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QWEOXyv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/A2A91Bp.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/hG9OdT8.jpg)

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Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on February 08, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Very nice! Maybe someday I will share my experience with Mr. Brown with you.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: rollingb on February 08, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
I like it!  :hey-hey
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Lonewolfe20 on February 09, 2017, 01:38:41 AM
Very nice eye candy
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: ridjrunr on February 09, 2017, 03:16:39 AM
Very nice Rob, I look forward to seeing it when finished. A friend I hunt and rendezvous with will be getting a tradegun from Jackie within a week. He's gettin that wormy wood :toast
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Keb on February 09, 2017, 07:27:57 AM
Quote from: "amm1851"
...Maybe someday I will share my experience with Mr. Brown with you.
Me too...
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Hanshi on February 09, 2017, 01:57:04 PM
Looks really good to me.  Mine's similar but was finished when I received it.  You will like yours every bit as much as I like mine.  :hairy
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on February 09, 2017, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: "Keb"
Quote from: "amm1851"
...Maybe someday I will share my experience with Mr. Brown with you.
Me too...

We could form a club!  :lol sign
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 09, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: "amm1851"
Quote from: "Keb"
Quote from: "amm1851"
...Maybe someday I will share my experience with Mr. Brown with you.
Me too...

We could form a club!  :lol sign

indeed!  and not a very happy one ....
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 24, 2017, 08:48:09 AM
well, the "jackie gun" is as done as can be, at least for now.  after 4 or 5 light wipes of warm TOTW original oil (linseed + dryers), with 24 hour curing, i gave the stock 3 light wipes of tru-oil varnish.  all wipes had 0000 wool light buffing between coats.  last tru-oil coat was also wool buffed and then a coat of johnson's carnuba car wax was rubbed on and off.  not too bad.  there was a *LOT* of work required to fix "issues" and make it at least presentable and hopefully shootable.  we'll see.  the metal will be left as-is, no browning or bluing, it'll patina all on its own as was typically done back in the day, particularly with these far cheaper "barn guns".

(http://i.imgur.com/u8rP0bi.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/Htx3OLf.jpg)

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Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: rollingb on February 24, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
Ya done a nice job with the finish,... be sure and let us know how she shoots.  :bl th up
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Hanshi on February 24, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
Now that is a very good looking gun.  :toast
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on February 24, 2017, 05:13:42 PM
Looks like you did a right fine job fixin up that smoothie.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on February 27, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
Rob, as you know I have an order in for a JB trade gun.. It's been 3 weeks and according to JB, should be shipped this afternoon. You sure did yourself proud on yours!!! PURTY! I'm green with envy right now. Good job!
B
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 27, 2017, 11:18:18 AM
got my fingers crossed for ya, bad - hope she turns out at least as "good" as mine. :) ) firing.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on February 27, 2017, 02:52:07 PM
AHHHH I bet it's a shooter! If we lived closer, we could cuss and discuss in person!!!  I shall await the video!
B
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 27, 2017, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
AHHHH I bet it's a shooter! If we lived closer, we could cuss and discuss in person!!!  I shall await the video!
B

 :bl th up   :wave   :*:
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on February 27, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
Just getting a JB gun ready to shoot is a major accomplishment.  :Doh!
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on February 27, 2017, 07:07:26 PM
Quote from: "amm1851"
Just getting a JB gun ready to shoot is a major accomplishment.  :roll eyes   :shock:
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on February 27, 2017, 09:12:18 PM
:shock:  :*:
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 02, 2017, 11:40:03 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
:Doh! you both are bannished from my fire until  :shock: mine arrives :)
     The turtle sight wasn't on it, however was replaced by a bladed sight. JB is sending me my turtle. The gun took me 3 weeks to get, one week behind. (no complaint)
     The serpent and guard didn't fit well against the stock, but I did some minor file work and they fit now.
     The wormy wood stock is beautiful. Once I oiled the gun down, the beauty came thru. The lock was crisp and tight. It sparks like a bygawd. Now for what I paid, to get an American made gun, and from a known builder, I'm tickled pink. Our "hobby" is expensive when you become a flinter whore, but it could have been a lot more. (the warden didn't flinch).
   All in all... I had a good experience. I'd deal with JB again. I just need to research gun soldering.

Hi I'm Brad... I'm a flinter whore  :)
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on March 03, 2017, 06:06:07 AM
brad, you do realize that yer post is TOTALLY USELESS without PICTURES!!!   :shock:   :Doh!   :toast  :*:
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 03, 2017, 09:48:36 AM
This is the stuff for soldering on front sights, super easy to use with a propane torch.

The picture shows my first tube of the stuff with copper in it, my next purchase was the same low temp silver solder without the copper.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/beck%20rifle/solderpaste.jpg) (http://http)

To put on your front sight you first put a piece of sandpaper over your barrel grit up and run the sight back and forth over the sandpaper to get the sight base perfectly matching the barrel curvature.

Next put a triangle file on a flat surface, with your barrel resting on the top barrel flat , drag the barrel across the triangle file. This will make a perfectly centered line to use as an alignment reference for placing your sight.

Put some solder paste on your sight and hold it on the barrel with some kind of clamp aligning it with your previously marked center line. Heat the sight briefly until you see beads of solder melt and form around the sight and you are done.

In this picture I am doing the same procedure with a underlug on a fowler barrel.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/English%20Fowler/solderingonalug_zpsc1369981.jpg) (http://http)

You can see my file drag marked center line on the barrel. With a C clamp you can tap your sight or underlug around a little for alignment before you heat it and melt the solder.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: "Rob D"
brad, you do realize that yer post is TOTALLY USELESS without PICTURES!!!   :shock:   :Doh!   :toast  :shock:  I'm not good at posting sketches in a forum, but I shall endeavor to persevere. Let me see what I can accomplish today. Let me find a quill and some parchment.
Brad
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 12:21:13 PM
Eric... same principal as plumbing copper? If so, I GOT THIS!
Brad
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: rollingb on March 03, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
Quote from: "Rob D"
brad, you do realize that yer post is TOTALLY USELESS without PICTURES!!!   :shock:   :Doh!   :toast  :shock:  I'm not good at posting sketches in a forum, but I shall endeavor to persevere. Let me see what I can accomplish today. Let me find a quill and some parchment.
Brad
:rt th We like "sketches".  :rt th
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 03, 2017, 01:19:42 PM
Similar but you don't have to draw any solder into your joint because it is already there via the paste.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: "Eric Krewson"
Similar but you don't have to draw any solder into your joint because it is already there via the paste.
purchased where? I'm intrigued!
Brad
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 03, 2017, 03:29:26 PM
I bought the copper/ silver solder paste at Lowe's but couldn't find it the last time I was there. Rather than drive all over town looking for the stuff I ordered some off eBay, shipped free to may door.

I have also used it for adding metal to a trigger bar and adding metal for height to a front sight I filed too much on.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big. I have no clue what a dadgum photobucket is. She is pretty and I guess you have to take my word for it... and I'm a scoundrel.
B
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: rollingb on March 03, 2017, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big. I have no clue what a dadgum photobucket is. She is pretty and I guess you have to take my word for it... and I'm a scoundrel.
B
Some info about,.... About Photobucket | eHow (http://www.ehow.com/about_4578395_photobucket.html?ref=Track2&utm_source=IACB2C) .....  :rt th
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big. I have no clue what a dadgum photobucket is. She is pretty and I guess you have to take my word for it... and I'm a scoundrel.
B

Send the gun to me. I will take pictures, post them and even put a few hundred rounds through that bad boy just to break it in for you.  :horse
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: "amm1851"
Quote from: "McBullett"
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big. I have no clue what a dadgum photobucket is. She is pretty and I guess you have to take my word for it... and I'm a scoundrel.
B

Send the gun to me. I will take pictures, post them and even put a few hundred rounds through that bad boy just to break it in for you.  :horse
WHY BYGAWD!!! That's a whopper of an idea!!!! Heck I will even furnish the lead! Had my beard not gotten in my eyes< I may have seen this idea sooner.
WAUGH!!! I may even deliver. Yep AMM1851, we will get a long just fine..
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 03, 2017, 06:05:25 PM
L0ok for; Solder-It SP-7 Silver Bearing Solder Paste Syringe 7.1 Grams, Flux Blended In
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
Quote from: "amm1851"
Quote from: "McBullett"
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big. I have no clue what a dadgum photobucket is. She is pretty and I guess you have to take my word for it... and I'm a scoundrel.
B

Send the gun to me. I will take pictures, post them and even put a few hundred rounds through that bad boy just to break it in for you.  :lol sign  :peace
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Winter Hawk on March 03, 2017, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: "McBullett"
OK... 2 hours of my life wasted. I have no idea how to post sketches. Says too big.
B
Don't worry about photobucket (I hates it, I do).  Check the software you use to download the photos from your camera for a resize function, then size the photo down to where it's not too big for this site.  Save it with another name Or just add a "1" to what it is already called ( so you still have the original in regular size).  Then on your post, scroll down to where it says "Allowed Extensions" and below that "Filename".  Click the "Browse..." button, go to the resized photo and double click on it.  A box comes up where you can add a comment about the photo, which you can ignore if you want.  Click on "Add the file" to the right of the comment box.  Browse to more photos if you need, same drill for them also.  Then click on "Submit" and you are done.

At least, that is how it works for me.  :lol:   Hope this helps!

~WH~
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Winter Hawk on March 03, 2017, 09:08:38 PM
Quote from: "Eric Krewson"
Look for; Solder-It SP-7 Silver Bearing Solder Paste Syringe 7.1 Grams, Flux Blended In
I copied that and pasted it into the Bing search engine which came up with numerous sources.  I ordered it from Walmart, ships free.  Thanks for posting this! :hairy

~WH~
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 09:48:33 PM
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag144/flintlockjohn/SDC10326-1_zpsva09fqph.jpg)
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 09:50:59 PM
Well, I got one on, at least.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 09:53:36 PM
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag144/flintlockjohn/SDC10323_zpsbrdwodql.jpg)
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 09:55:53 PM
Dang John... and you want me to send you my trade gun?? Love the blanket btw!
B
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: "rollingb"
Quote from: "McBullett"
Quote from: "Rob D"
brad, you do realize that yer post is TOTALLY USELESS without PICTURES!!!   :shock:   :Doh!   :toast  :shock:  I'm not good at posting sketches in a forum, but I shall endeavor to persevere. Let me see what I can accomplish today. Let me find a quill and some parchment.
Brad
:rt th We like "sketches".  :rt th
AMM1851 helped me out... Thunder
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
And another.  :shock:
When I am your tech support,  brother,  you are in trouble.  But even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 10:03:12 PM
Brother.. I got yor 6!
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 03, 2017, 10:06:20 PM
Glad to help out. If I was still a drinking man, I would need a stiff belt after dealing with photobucket.  :)
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: McBullett on March 03, 2017, 10:23:07 PM
Quote from: "amm1851"
Glad to help out. If I was still a drinking man, I would need a stiff belt after dealing with photobucket.  :)

ME TOO! Thanks... tell you more when I shoot her
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: RobD on March 08, 2017, 03:49:59 PM
the jb seems to shoot ok so far ....

[size=85]click the image for the youtube video[/size]
(http://www.tradmla.org/images/jb.png) (http://https)
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 08, 2017, 05:56:21 PM
I hate to think what would happen if I touched off a shot in my backyard.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 08, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
I got away with it a couple of times 40 years ago when we lived in Post Falls, ID.
After we moved to the mountains north and east of Hayden, ID shooting in the back yard was a pretty common happening.
Since we moved to Morron Bay, CA, I don't dare phart in the back yard.
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: amm1851 on March 08, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
:lol sign
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Hank in WV on March 08, 2017, 09:31:41 PM
:rotf
Title: Re: a new smoothie
Post by: Ohio Joe on March 08, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
:laffing