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The Center of Camp => Camping Gear and Campfire Cooking => Topic started by: Mad Irish Jack on January 25, 2018, 10:08:10 PM

Title: Cordage and care, usage and knots etc.
Post by: Mad Irish Jack on January 25, 2018, 10:08:10 PM
Over the years I've gotten much positive, attentive notice to my use of cordage in my camp and on equipment. I use ropes of various sizes to do various tasks in camp. I use hitches, splices and I whip the ends to strengthen and prolong the life of my rope.
If have a fray spot in a rope, I cut it out and splice them together and add whipping, which makes the spliced area stronger than the original area. Some may say why not use or buy a new rope. Well, that isn't what we are trying to portray or live that life cheating with the easy way out. Pioneering skills is what the knots and cordage use fall under. They lacked funds to just buy whatever they needed. They tied pack horse loads, packages, fix broken items (temporarily until it can be done right, or until replaced) Hauled many loads, hung items up and tied them down etc. You can find many sites on the internet on knots, but here's one with a good group of basic knots to get started with. Strive for persona accuracy. :applaud
 http://www.animatedknots.com/indexscouting.php
Title: Re: Cordage and care, usage and knots etc.
Post by: Buzzard on January 26, 2018, 09:26:03 AM
Thanks, Jack. Good job
Title: Re: Cordage and care, usage and knots etc.
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 26, 2018, 09:43:40 AM
Good post, Jack!  :bl th up

My grandson (8 yrs old) has a Scouting "camp in" tonight at a big gymnasium over in Chadron (I'll be camping with him), I think I'll ask the Scout Leader when they're a gonna start teaching the kids knots. I was never a Scout myself, so I don't know if they have a specific level they start teaching them about this? Thanks for the post, it's food for thought.

By they way, I too try and get every inch worth of use out of my ropes. Repair is a lot less expensive then continually buying new. :toast
Title: Re: Cordage and care, usage and knots etc.
Post by: SharpStick on January 26, 2018, 02:52:44 PM
Having been involved on and off for the last 40 years with Boy Scouts I can say that they do start with knots and lashing early on (11 years old). I think the Cub Scouts do some even younger. The first few Boy Scout ranks (Scout, 2nd Class, 1st Class) all have knots and lashing requirements. Beginning with Square Knot (Reef Knot), and continuing with whip and fuse the ends, two half-hitches, taut-line hitch, sheet bend, bowline, timber hitch, clove hitch, square, shear, and diagonal lashings. Then there's the Pioneering merit badge. I always make them practice until they could tie the knot behind their back so they could do it in the dark and could understand how the knot was formed by seeing it in their mind.

I agree that the Animated Knots website (www.animatedknots.com) is excellent, but I'm prejudiced 'cause several years ago I suggested a tip on how to pull the frappings tight on lashings and he included it and gave me credit.   There's also a great Animated Knots phone app for when you're out in the wilderness and can't quite remember how to tie that Alpine Butterfly Loop or Trucker's Hitch.

This brings back lots of memories of one-handed bowline contests with scouts and getting a good laugh as they either fall one their rear or squish their fingers in the knot when they lean back when they're not quite finished.

For those who don't know about one handed bowline contests, I'll explain.  Tie one end of a 8 or 10 foot rope to a tree about eye height.  Face the tree. Pass the loose end around your waist and grab the end with one hand. At the starting sound use the one hand to tie a bowline with the end in your hand and the section of the rope between you and the tree. When you think you're done let go of the rope and lean back to about 45 degrees so that the rope supports you. Just remember to pull your fingers out BEFORE you lean back.  :o  :P
Title: Re: Cordage and care, usage and knots etc.
Post by: wattlebuster on January 28, 2018, 09:06:31 AM
Thats a handy site to have. I have saved it cause it will be needed. Thanks for posting :hairy