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Title: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 27, 2019, 11:46:34 PM
Just got word from Steve Donker in Cheyenne Wyoming (The Wicked Limb), with the latest update of the progress on my new osage orange Horse Bow,....

Rondo

Just wanted to show you the skins I got in the mail friday.  They are western diamond back  rattlers from eldarado KS.  For some reason I was thinking the guy I get these from was in Arizona  but I was mistaken.   Anyway he always has  first rate skins.  They are always in perfect condition and the pattern is really nice.  The more I work on this bow the more excited I get to see the end result.   This whole bow building thing really is an addiction.   

I have also done some rough tillering  and even took a few short draw shots with it this afternoon.   

I'll keep you posted on the progress.   


(https://i.imgur.com/QAbppbf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fHM2azz.jpg)

This bow will be backed with sinew and rattle snake skins.  :applaud
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 28, 2019, 08:16:26 AM
That's looking good Rondo. We've both known Steve for a long time and one thing about the Donker's is if they're doing something for you - it's gonna be done right! I can hardly wait to see it at the Rendezvous this year.  :bl th up

Heck Rondo, I'm surprised you didn't go down on the Cimarron River and wrestle yourself a couple sidewinders to send Steve... :o
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 28, 2019, 11:18:33 AM
That's looking good Rondo. We've both known Steve for a long time and one thing about the Donker's is if they're doing something for you - it's gonna be done right! I can hardly wait to see it at the Rendezvous this year.  :bl th up

Heck Rondo, I'm surprised you didn't go down on the Cimarron River and wrestle yourself a couple sidewinders to send Steve... :o

Joe,.... if'n I ever get close enough to a rattle snake to "wrestle" him,.... there ain't gonna be enough left of that slitherin' critter to "back" a toothpick. :o (I hate snakes)

Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: ridjrunr on January 28, 2019, 12:10:44 PM
Thats looking to be a beautiful bow! What poundage are you aiming for? Btw, Eldorado is only 20 miles from me but I didnt know they had rattlers there😳
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 28, 2019, 12:51:32 PM
Thats looking to be a beautiful bow! What poundage are you aiming for? Btw, Eldorado is only 20 miles from me but I didnt know they had rattlers there😳

Hi Dan,.... Steve is aiming for 45-50 pounds draw weight.  :bl th up

I've always wanted a "snakey" horse bow, and it looks as though this is going to be good one,.... if nothing unexpected happens.  :bl th up
I bought an osage orange bow (backed with silk) from Steve last summer, and gave it to my son and he loves it.

My next project is make a couple of early-1800's (western plains and rocky mountain) quivers for both bows, but I'm having trouble finding out EXACTLY how they were made. I have found a few pictures of Apache, Crow, and Sioux, quivers in museums, but not much else.

I want to make the quivers out of brain tanned deer and elk hides.  :bl th up
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 28, 2019, 02:13:54 PM
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Joe,.... if'n I ever get close enough to a rattle snake to "wrestle" him,.... there ain't gonna be enough left of that slitherin' critter to "back" a toothpick. :o (I hate snakes)

I hear ya Rondo, but I wouldn't be able to hear ya for long as I'd be a quarter mile down the road... :lol sign
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 28, 2019, 03:17:55 PM
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Joe,.... if'n I ever get close enough to a rattle snake to "wrestle" him,.... there ain't gonna be enough left of that slitherin' critter to "back" a toothpick. :o (I hate snakes)

I hear ya Rondo, but I wouldn't be able to hear ya for long as I'd be a quarter mile down the road... :lol sign
:hairy :lol sign......Joe,... I don't remember if I ever told you the story (while we were *cough, cough* drinkin' coffee around the campfire), 'bout when I was a young'un (a bit younger'n Lucas), and I was swingin' on a limb of an old apple tree my folks had behind their house, when a big ol' snake (20-30 feet long :o) dropped down across my neck and shoulders.  :o

After runnin' a spell, I noticed the snake was GONE, and after my heart slowed down to about 300 beats'a minute, I finally had time to do some thinkin',... and figgured I must'a jiggled that critter loose from a limb higher up above, while he was on his way up to a bird's nest lookin for baby birds.  :o

I never swung on that apple tree limb agin, without havin' a gun in one hand.  :hairy
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 28, 2019, 03:19:58 PM
That's looking good Rondo. We've both known Steve for a long time and one thing about the Donker's is if they're doing something for you - it's gonna be done right! I can hardly wait to see it at the Rendezvous this year.  :bl th up

Heck Rondo, I'm surprised you didn't go down on the Cimarron River and wrestle yourself a couple sidewinders to send Steve... :o

Joe,.... if'n I ever get close enough to a rattle snake to "wrestle" him,.... there ain't gonna be enough left of that slitherin' critter to "back" a toothpick. :o (I hate snakes)

My goodness, there is hope fer Rondo!  :applaud

Ain't never going to be no snakeskin on anything I have to hold in my hand, period....
I realize it's a very popular thing to do, and there's much to be said about doing this, but personally, I would end up killing my own bow before I shot the first arrow.

I hate snakes! Live ones, dead ones, even sticks that look like snakes.
Snakes, much like electricity, seems to always make me hurt myself!
At my age, ya just don't take that chance.

Russ...
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 28, 2019, 04:53:33 PM


Joe,.... if'n I ever get close enough to a rattle snake to "wrestle" him,.... there ain't gonna be enough left of that slitherin' critter to "back" a toothpick. :o (I hate snakes)

My goodness, there is hope fer Rondo!  :applaud

Ain't never going to be no snakeskin on anything I have to hold in my hand, period....
I realize it's a very popular thing to do, and there's much to be said about doing this, but personally, I would end up killing my own bow before I shot the first arrow.

I hate snakes! Live ones, dead ones, even sticks that look like snakes.
Snakes, much like electricity, seems to always make me hurt myself!
At my age, ya just don't take that chance.

Russ...

 :lol sign :laffing,...... Russ,... smashin' my bow to death IS one of my concerns.  :hairy :lol sign

I can just picture,.... me'n Joe sittin' around the campfire at night (drinkin' *cough, cough* coffee),.... and after the coffee bottle is empty, I go stumblein'/staggerin' back to my camp and fall into bed,.... and when I wake up the next morning, I see my brand-new bow all "kinked and crooked" on the ground, where I must'a accidently stepped on it when I went to bed,... so I pick it up and place it beside me on the bed, while lovingly and carefully straightin' it all back out.

As the fog in my brain begins to lift, and my vision starts to clear,.... I then,.... notice my wife has already hung my new bow from the tent's ridge pole, where it is safe and out of the way.  :) :bl th up

The first thing that usually pops into my hed, under such circumstances, is,...... "hummm,..... I don't 'member buyin' 2 bows."  (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/scratching-head-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)  :o
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 28, 2019, 08:10:23 PM
 :lol sign

I'm a just a prayin'  :pray: when it gets dark, and we've been a'drinkin' so much (*cough, cough* coffee) thet weezz don't start a'seein' two of them wooden bow critters.  :o  Why I don't know what would happen with the two of us'ns runnin' through camp in the dark with our jug (I mean coffee pot) and a shootin' our pistol's at the ground behind us...  :laffing
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 28, 2019, 08:53:17 PM
:lol sign

I'm a just a prayin'  :pray: when it gets dark, and we've been a'drinkin' so much (*cough, cough* coffee) thet weezz don't start a'seein' two of them wooden bow critters.  :o  Why I don't know what would happen with the two of us'ns runnin' through camp in the dark with our jug (I mean coffee pot) and a shootin' our pistol's at the ground behind us...  :laffing

 :lol sign,.... I reckon we could tell everbody, that we was doin' the "Hopi Snake Dance". :bl th up :toast
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Hopi+Snake+Dance
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on January 28, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Well heck Rondo, I'm in since the rules say;

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"nowadays they usually wear underwear and cut their hair short."

But I'm a thinkin' if'n it a comes to snake fleeing - well,,, this old boy may have no choice but to chuck the undies 'cause they might be a bit ripe...  :laffing
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Spotted Bull on January 29, 2019, 07:25:52 AM
I love snakes, personally. They make great pets.
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 29, 2019, 10:25:43 AM
I love snakes, personally. They make great pets.

Then I should probably give each of my new-found "pets" a proper name,.... since they're going on my bow. :)  :bl th up

Maybe somethin' like,..... "Top",.... and,... "Bottom"?  :lol sign :lol sign  :hairy
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Nessmuk on January 30, 2019, 03:15:45 PM
Awwww, give some class. How about Upper and Lower.  :laffing
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 30, 2019, 03:46:22 PM
Awwww, give some class. How about Upper and Lower.  :laffing

 :lol sign  :applaud

Russ...
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 30, 2019, 03:49:57 PM
Awwww, give some class. How about Upper and Lower.  :laffing

"Upper and Lower",.... it is then!  :applaud :bow :bl th up

Thanks Nessmuk,.... I owe you one.  :hairy  :)
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Nessmuk on January 30, 2019, 07:06:28 PM
For the record, I  like snakes too .........   in the  backyard ..... eating gophers, moles and voles   .... then leaving. ;)
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Uncle Russ on January 30, 2019, 07:09:05 PM
For the record, I  like snakes too .........   in the  backyard ..... eating gophers, moles and voles   .... then leaving. ;)
I strongly suspect I like 'em leaving best.  :bow

Russ...
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on January 30, 2019, 07:20:43 PM
For the record, I  like snakes too .........   in the  backyard ..... eating gophers, moles and voles   .... then leaving. ;)

I like'em on my new bow!  :lol sign
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Winter Hawk on January 30, 2019, 07:48:54 PM
I too am in the camp which likes snakes.  Been that way ever since I found out my ex mother-in-law was afraid of them!  :o

But to return to the original post, it seems appropriate that a snaky bow like that would have snakeskin backing!  :toast

~Kees~
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Nessmuk on January 31, 2019, 02:30:43 PM
It is a work of art. :hairy
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on February 01, 2019, 11:09:47 PM
I just finished this replica of a Mescalero-Apache arrow quiver today,.... the original is in the Denver Art Museum.
It's made of smoked brain tanned deer skin, and trade wool.  :bl th up

It's going to my son for the Osage Orange bow I gave him, and I like it enough to make another one for my new "snakey bow" that is in the makin'.  ;D

Don't pay any attention to the fiber glass arrows in the quiver, they're just some kids arrows that I dropped in it temporarily for the picture.  :laffing
(https://i.imgur.com/pNZWZiX.jpg)
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 02, 2019, 08:10:41 AM
I like the looks of that quiver Rondo!  :hairy

I wish the archery contest at Chadron Fur Trade Days didn't overlap so darn close in starting times with the shooting matches...  I've only been able to shoot in one of their archery contests, and that was many years ago when starting times for events where spread out a bit more.  Also, have you heard any talk of a winter meeting date for Fur Trade Days? If I recall, the winter meeting use to be in February as so to plan for the July Rendezvous, and it was held at the Museum - but this may have changed as well?
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on February 02, 2019, 10:21:18 AM
I like the looks of that quiver Rondo!  :hairy

I wish the archery contest at Chadron Fur Trade Days didn't overlap so darn close in starting times with the shooting matches...  I've only been able to shoot in one of their archery contests, and that was many years ago when starting times for events where spread out a bit more.  Also, have you heard any talk of a winter meeting date for Fur Trade Days? If I recall, the winter meeting use to be in February as so to plan for the July Rendezvous, and it was held at the Museum - but this may have changed as well?

Joe,.... I haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: shootrj2003 on July 29, 2021, 11:35:37 PM
My wife purely hates and fears snakes.Me? Their just another of gods creatures,I had to fight a few and killed a rattle once that I probably did not have too  but I was young and he rattled at us in a swamp.never heard one before for real but instantly new it was danger and a micro second later new what it was before I even saw it ,I just knew and jumped away without skipping a beat so he never got a shot at me,a 5’ timber rattler.we killed a few in the Marines,big ones ,a Bushmater in Panama,a big Copperhead at my old house that almost bit me ,but never hated them .I just hope a poisonous one don’t bite me,that can be bad,my friend got bit by a Copperhead that was no worse than a bee sting for him,but they can control the amount of poison I’ve heard and if they recently killed there can be less poison
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: Ohio Joe on July 30, 2021, 08:46:10 AM
Hey Rondo, I forgot to tell you that at this years Fur Trade Days Camp, Steve Donker was working on a Cross Bow for some feller... I watched him test fire it, and it was rather impressive.  :bl th up
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: rollingb on July 31, 2021, 12:29:26 AM
Hey Rondo, I forgot to tell you that at this years Fur Trade Days Camp, Steve Donker was working on a Cross Bow for some feller... I watched him test fire it, and it was rather impressive.  :bl th up

Crossbows are too "high tech" for this child!  :laffing  :hairy
Title: Re: My Osage Orange Horse Bow in the makin'
Post by: shootrj2003 on July 31, 2021, 01:06:53 AM
I bought my first on last year ,it looks more like an AR then a bow but it is bad ass and a little high tech and out of my norm but if I found a planet blaster that fell off a UFO I’d keep it too! I just dotes on weapons!