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Traditional Firearms => Flintlock Long Guns => Topic started by: BEAVERMAN on July 30, 2020, 10:15:30 PM

Title: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: BEAVERMAN on July 30, 2020, 10:15:30 PM
Good video on the 1800 Baker Rifle, his channel (britishmuzzleloaders)has some other good vids of English Military Rifles and such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv4fS-XyBhw
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Ohio Joe on July 31, 2020, 08:40:29 AM
Have always enjoyed his videos. He really likes his Baker Rifle, and that extra step he takes to outfit himself when doing reviews of firearms, I give him an A+  :hairy
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: BEAVERMAN on July 31, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Have always enjoyed his videos. He really likes his Baker Rifle, and that extra step he takes to outfit himself when doing reviews of firearms, I give him an A+  :hairy

I do also!

Joe, whats not to like? Sir Michael has a real nice baker that Jess at the rifle shop built for him a bunch of years ago and that's his daily shooter, I've shot that thing a few times and it's a sweet shooter, Michael's persona is a Major of the 95th rifles, and his attire and camp with campaign furniture is top shelf! Puffer also has one of those bakers from Middlesex Village that he swapped an Ed Rayl barrel on it, we worked and polished the lock in my shop and made a new trigger for it and it is actually quite a good shooter also!

Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Ohio Joe on July 31, 2020, 10:49:34 AM
Jim, do you know if Ed Rayl is still rifling those smoothbore Baker barrels?

Ed has made me 3 barrels over the years (some years back) .40, .45, .54 (the last two for rifles I built for a friend) and they are IMHO - 100% A-O-K Number One Barrels!!!  :hairy

I do hope Ed is still at it.  :shake
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: BEAVERMAN on July 31, 2020, 11:08:53 AM
Joe, he would not rifle the barrels from India, he would make a NEW barrel for the rifle, I think that I read on the ALR site last year that Ed was about a year out on barrel orders and he was not taking anymore orders as he was going to retire.
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Ohio Joe on July 31, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
I don't begrudge Ed, his retirement - he's earned it that's for sure... I'm hoping he took on an apprentice (and maybe he did)?  Being back logged with so many barrel orders is a testament to how good they are, IMHO.

I'm thinking Two Steps has an Ed Rayl barrel on his rifle if I recall correctly?

 :shake

 
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: BEAVERMAN on July 31, 2020, 11:23:28 AM
Yes Sir he made quality barrels, I don't have a Rayl, I have an older Getz  54 swamped on the prom queen( built by Don) and a Bill Large 54 on a full stock mountain rifle I built a dozen years ago
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Ohio Joe on July 31, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Yes Sir he made quality barrels, I don't have a Rayl, I have an older Getz  54 swamped on the prom queen( built by Don) and a Bill Large 54 on a full stock mountain rifle I built a dozen years ago

Can't go wrong with them barrels, Jim!  :hairy
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 31, 2020, 09:01:21 PM
I had Ed make a barrel for one of our Light American Sporting Rifles quite a few years ago, maybe 18-20, I think.  It was .62 caliber.  Although I liked 1:104 twist, he only was equipped to go 1:96.  Regardless, it shot quite well with the heavy powder charges I like.
I recall maybe 40 years ago, we used to sell Ed stuff for his shop.  Then he started making barrels and we never sold him anything again.  I enjoyed doing business with him, nice guy.

John (Bigsmoke)
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Puffer on August 01, 2020, 12:05:32 PM
 :wave :bl th up
Have always enjoyed his videos. He really likes his Baker Rifle, and that extra step he takes to outfit himself when doing reviews of firearms, I give him an A+  :hairy

I do also!

Joe, whats not to like? Sir Michael has a real nice baker that Jess at the rifle shop built for him a bunch of years ago and that's his daily shooter, I've shot that thing a few times and it's a sweet shooter, Michael's persona is a Major of the 95th rifles, and his attire and camp with campaign furniture is top shelf! Puffer also has one of those bakers from Middlesex Village that he swapped an Ed Rayl barrel on it, we worked and polished the lock in my shop and made a new trigger for it and it is actually quite a good shooter also!

Here the 3 "BAKER RIFLES" that we often had @ our shoots & Rondy's  = This pic is  from a PNW BP?ML Gun show.-
The guns were/are 0wned by PETE SHERAN, "SIR MICHAEL" & ME.
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Ohio Joe on August 01, 2020, 12:34:33 PM
Very Nice!!!  :hairy

I notice the Pete Sheran rifle has a different patch box.  Can you elaborate on who manufactured them?

Thanks for the photo! Bet you guys had / have a great time with them.  :hairy
Title: Re: THE 1800 BAKER RIFLE
Post by: Puffer on August 01, 2020, 01:19:15 PM
Very Nice!!!  :hairy

I notice the Pete Sheran rifle has a different patch box.  Can you elaborate on who manufactured them?

Thanks for the photo! Bet you guys had / have a great time with them.  :hairy

 PETE SHERAN's  = He made his from TRS Parts  ( he simply picked a specifc mdle. he wanted.,
 MICHAEL's was from TRS also ( specific mdle,)
 ME. Imported = "Ed's bbl.

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